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New gadgets for your Volvo?

Posted: 03 Jan 2004 02:22 pm
by volvo360
Greetings!
As you may have noticed, Volvo offered some great electric equipment like PW and PM for
the 300-series.
But then, only a fraction of 360's produced were fitted with these extras...
Well, it seems that Volvo used the 300 control panel for number of models (850, 9xx etc.)...
Wouldn't it be great to locate such a panel and intall it in your old Volvo!
Naturally new wiring would be required and service window motors had to be installed--hard
work. In the end you'd have a uniquely well optioned Volvo, though :D
I've been tossing the idea around for a year now. So sad that my low-to-none student budjet
keeps me from realizing it. If there's anyone out there who's willig to give it a try, please let
me know!
To get you started, look at the pic from a 850 control panel.
Greets,
Ari

Posted: 03 Jan 2004 10:07 pm
by Duvel78
What a surprise!! And what a great idea!!!
It's the SAME control panel on the 300 series! Look at this picture (taken in a GLT redline)
Image
We just have to find a damaged Volvo 850! sm18 But for the mirrors, it was extremely rare on
the 300's! What was the wiring diagram for the mirrors? :?:

Posted: 04 Jan 2004 02:32 pm
by wstrik
The panel is the same in the 700 and 900-series cars, and
those will be easier to find in salvage yards. In the 300, the front two places were for the
electric mirrors (those switches are identical also), then two for the front windows, and the rear
two were for the heated seats. The center switch I've never seen used originally on a 300.
Both seats and windows are easy to come by, only the mirrors are thin on the ground. But I
don't see how you could adapt mirrors of the 700, for example, to fit on a 300, and the motors
won't fit a 300 mirror.

Posted: 04 Jan 2004 02:54 pm
by Duvel78
Here a picture of the panel in the 700 series:
Image
The panel in the 850 looks a bit more like the panel in the 300 series!
sm18

Posted: 04 Jan 2004 04:10 pm
by GLT_vario_driver
wstrik wrote:The center switch I've never
seen used originally on a 300.
I think that the center switch is for electric mirors but never seen them on a 300 series even on
a booklet of the volvo 300.
as we talk about the booklet of the volvo 300, I have seen on them air conditionning and I
have never seen any 300 on the roads with such equipment. Anyone has it??

Links

Posted: 04 Jan 2004 11:52 pm
by volvo360
Hi!
Here are a few scans from my -87 360 manual... just in case you were wondering which
gadget goes where and what was standard (pretty hard to figure if you can't read finnish,
though :D ). But as they say: a picture can tell more than a thousand words.
It seems that AC was so rare they couldn't even photograph it in their own manual :wink:
Nonetheless, I've seen a picture from New Zeland showing a 360 w/ AC.
http://users.utu.fi/aribro/digivolvo/9.jpg
http://users.utu.fi/aribro/digivolvo/13.jpg
http://users.utu.fi/aribro/digivolvo/15.jpg
http://users.utu.fi/aribro/digivolvo/19.jpg

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 05:14 am
by muggins
wstrik wrote: ... I have seen on them air conditionning and I have never seen any 300 on the roads with
such equipment. Anyone has it??
I have airconditioning on my '86 360 GLT - I think it was standard fitment in Australia. The
owners manual has a supplement which shows the controls. The button for on and
recirculation are located on the dash below the heater controls.
I think the system is only just up the task of handling Australian summers, apparently it is very
rare to find one still working, I had to get mine totally reconditioned and it is still only just
adequate.

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 05:32 am
by Duvel78
muggins wrote:I think it was standard fitment
in Australia. The owners manual has a supplement which shows the
controls.
STANDARD FITMENT in Australia!
Jesus...
Life is unfair sometimes... sm16
And you don't have rust problems! sm65
Are you sure it works better on the 200 or 700 series for example?

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 05:59 am
by VOLVOTECHCDN
muggins wrote: I had to get mine totally
reconditioned and it is still only just adequate.
was the freon used r12 or 134a on the repair and has it got a expansion valve or an orfice type
(temp knob on the dash like the 1976-1985 200s)?

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 07:19 am
by muggins
think it was 134a? - the non-ozone depleting one anyways.
not sure whether it is expansion valve or orifice type - it seems to be either on or off, with a
vacuum operated flap on the fan box (?) to allow recirculation. Temp adjust is via the normal
sliding heater controls.
Can't say how good it is compared to 200 or 700 series as this car is my only Volvo
experience (though I think now perhaps I have been missing something!)

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 08:14 am
by VOLVOTECHCDN
since this volvo was not sold in NA ,im not up to speed with the system ,
BUT r12 systems updated to r134a with out a change in the expansion device the system not
as good. here on 700's the orfice tube gets change because the atom mixture is thicker and
the flow rate with the size of the system changes with the atom size (Molecules).check to see
what the system has and lets see if we can get it closer to the temp here ,since it is summer
there and a/c is happenin now .

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 06:22 pm
by wstrik
I've sold it now, but I had a 360GLT with A/C and electric
mirrors. Here's a pic of the center switchpanel.

The panel from my 760 is identical in size, BTW, if not in print on top.

Posted: 05 Jan 2004 08:26 pm
by Duvel78
The link is broken... sm38
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Posted: 06 Jan 2004 05:46 pm
by wstrik
Sorry, I see. You have to be a member of that Yahoo group to
see the picture. For some reason I couldn't get the picture posted directly to this forum, so I
tried otherwise.

Posted: 06 Jan 2004 11:41 pm
by muggins
Hi VOLVOTECHCDN,
gas in my A/C system is definately r134a and some extra bits were added when it was
reconditioned, so I assume it has been done correctly. It does work ok usually, last time
though it was 40 degrees celsius outside sm2 and I suspect most systems would have
struggled a little. It did cool down the car eventually and made the drive bearable. Problem is I
compare it to my wife's current model Subaru Forester - 2003 vs 1986 system is probably
unfair!