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Post by Dan P » 10 Feb 2007 03:43 am

meintag wrote:Today news... From a 360 ( B200E )

Coolant temperature sensor ---> Discontinued
Thermal time switch ---> Discontinued

Me: wow, then, if one of both sensors fail, junk the car ?
Dealer: I don't know... Don't buy 20 years old cars and those things never will happen... :shock: :shock: :shock:

In the other hand, they've rocker cover gaskets and oil filters ! wow ! :roll:
Coolant temperatur sensor Bosch still manufacture them Bnr: 0280130026, ~20€ here in Sweden
I dont know why Volvo have them discontinued. 240, 740 and 400(non turbo) with LH-jet 2,2 have them too.

Thermal time swith BMW have an allmost equal solution by Bosch.
If I remember correctly it's only the thread(screwthread..sp? ) that differs.
Volvos TTS was manufactured by VDO, and I think they never let anyone make them.

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Post by classicswede » 10 Feb 2007 12:00 pm

Don't buy 20 year old car!!! :x

I can still get parts for my 40 year old amazon from the dealer!
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Post by pettaw » 10 Feb 2007 01:23 pm

Volvo UK still have stock of those two sensors. Maybe they're just using up old stock in their UK depot and haven't any left in Sweden.

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Post by Dan P » 11 Feb 2007 01:25 am

pettaw wrote:Volvo UK still have stock of those two sensors. Maybe they're just using up old stock in their UK depot and haven't any left in Sweden.
Sweden still have them.

As soon as anyone post something that is for real discontinued I will post a picture from VADIS and part number for reference.

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Post by meintag » 11 Feb 2007 02:52 am

Both sensors are REAL discontinued here in Spain ( or Volvo says that ) :wink:

If you post the references I'll try in another dealer !

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Post by Fuse » 29 Nov 2008 04:21 pm

We all know the issue with the track-rods/track-rod ends with the power steering models but I went to Volvo with intention to buy both track-rods and track-rod ends for a model without power steering and their answer was that both parts are discontinued. :shock:

Luckily those are available as aftermarket parts but I suspect the quality if the part is not german... I've got bad experiences with italian steering and suspension parts. :P Though usually it might've been the fault of lack of grease. It's always good to check how much grease has been applied to the joint from the factory because there's much variation. Though hopefully there are other brands than italian available also.

Lower ball joints were still available at Volvo, made by TRW Germany, price 72 euros a pair. :P

I'm still going to confirm from another Volvo dealer if it really is the case they've discontinued those track-rod/track-rod ends but sadly I think it is true.

Few people from 300Power.com have been in touch with the GCP about the lack of 300-series parts but the answer from GCP was

Anledningen till att vi inte har några 300 eller 400 delar beror på något avtal som Volvo har med Holländska staten.
Tyvärr så finns det inget vi kan göra åt saken.


Which is freely translated something like this

Reason for the fact that we don't have any 300- or 400-series parts available is because Volvo has some contract with the Holland so we can't really do anything about it.


Sounds quite odd that Holland Volvo or anybody else would be anymore interested if plans/parts/molds are reproduced by some other company for so old car models.. Maybe the GCP just doesn't want to include 300-series and give that as an excuse, who knows...
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Post by trabitom99 » 29 Nov 2008 06:12 pm

Fuse wrote:We all know the issue with the track-rods/track-rod ends with the power steering models but I went to Volvo with intention to buy both track-rods and track-rod ends for a model without power steering and their answer was that both parts are discontinued. :shock:
The track rod ends for the PAS rack are the same as those used for the manual rack - and also the same those used for many other cars.

If you want some which are from Volvo, take a look at this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0315266519

There are many aftermarket manufacturers which made / make them too, I recently bought a set of QH ones from Ebay UK quite cheaply.

As you say, it is the PAS track rods which are the problem - no aftermarket support for those at all as they seem not to fit any other car :shock:
Fuse wrote:Lower ball joints were still available at Volvo, made by TRW Germany, price 72 euros a pair. :P
They are also very readily available on the aftermarket ... Incedentally, TRW are the company who made the 360 PAS rack, and I once recieved an email from a salesman at Lizarte who said TRW racks are Lizarte ones sold under licence. So maybe the 360 PAS rack is Spanish ;-)
Fuse wrote:Few people from 300Power.com have been in touch with the GCP about the lack of 300-series parts but the answer from GCP was

Anledningen till att vi inte har några 300 eller 400 delar beror på något avtal som Volvo har med Holländska staten.
Tyvärr så finns det inget vi kan göra åt saken.


Which is freely translated something like this

Reason for the fact that we don't have any 300- or 400-series parts available is because Volvo has some contract with the Holland so we can't really do anything about it.


Sounds quite odd that Holland Volvo or anybody else would be anymore interested if plans/parts/molds are reproduced by some other company for so old car models.. Maybe the GCP just doesn't want to include 300-series and give that as an excuse, who knows...
That is odd. I noticed that after GCP did a relaunch of their site, the 300 series was no longer listed as being supported. It used to be though ... A great shame - as GCP supplies / supplied original Volvo parts AFAIK, whereas Scantech doesn't. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

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Post by classicswede » 02 Dec 2008 12:14 pm

Quality of scantech part has been very poor from what I have seen.

I think it time to ort out a good part supply for the 300 series models
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Post by pistonpen paultje » 02 Dec 2008 12:17 pm

The dafclub here in the NL had about the same problem, now they can sort out almost every part...A great example of how it should be. But then we should need some really dedicated fanatics who would like to put a lot of money and time in it.

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Post by trabitom99 » 02 Dec 2008 12:20 pm

classicswede wrote:Quality of scantech part has been very poor from what I have seen.
D'you have some examples of that? I remember Foggy wasn't too happy with his steering boots ...

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Post by Fuse » 02 Dec 2008 03:32 pm

Scantech is only a Swedish packer, they don't make parts so a Scantech part can be anything and mostly those are cheapest they have found.
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Post by jtbo » 02 Dec 2008 04:15 pm

Fuse wrote:Scantech is only a Swedish packer, they don't make parts so a Scantech part can be anything and mostly those are cheapest they have found.
From China perhaps 8)
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Post by classicswede » 03 Dec 2008 10:41 am

trabitom99 wrote:
classicswede wrote:Quality of scantech part has been very poor from what I have seen.
D'you have some examples of that? I remember Foggy wasn't too happy with his steering boots ...

Tom
Suspension bushes are very poor quality going off all the ones I have had. I have also had problems with track rods and ball joints for 240's not lasting long. Some of teh other parts such as heater valves and parts that don't as such wear out are ok
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Post by foggyjames » 16 Dec 2008 01:47 am

The Scantech rack gaiters I bought were utter bollocks - they lasted less than a year.

I have heard a story that Volvo BV still owed the Dutch government a large amount of money when they folded, and any parts sold for cars built in Holland are subject to loan repayments. Personally, I don't care...I just want the parts.

Moves are afoot, people...BUT...we are likely to have to prove the size of the market. The VOC has some influence with our contacts in Sweden. I may, at some point, request you all send me a letter to support our case.

The other option is to set up a business specialising in supply of parts and services for the 300 series. That may also be the end result of our talks with Volvo...

Either way, support in the form of actually buying parts is also going to be needed. If some of stick our arses on the line, then no-one buys anything, we're going to either look very silly, or have money problems! Perhaps go half and half with eBay, instead of scrounging everything?

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