Volvo 340/360 Air Recirculation UPGRADE

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Volvo 340/360 Air Recirculation UPGRADE

Post by trabitom99 » 01 Apr 2008 04:00 pm

I didn't bid on this because

#1 the heater box is for a RHD car
#2 Chris was bidding ;-)

... but it sounds like a really good idea! AFAIK the air recirc system was dropped in '88.
This auction is for a Volvo 340/360 Air recirculation actuator, hoses and switch. It can be fitted to any 340/360 without too much effort and is a hand feature to have as on cold day make the inside of the car warm up much faster and at other times helps to keep out other car fumes.
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I thought I'd post his advice here, as it might be of use to someone.
You remove your current air intake housing, undo the clips to split in half, clips this half on which has the actuator and flap on it then fasten it back. One hose tees into an existing vacuum point on the manifold and tthen to the switch and the other is from the switch to the actuator. The switch simply clips in where there is a blanking plate on the heating control on the dash of your car. And there you are job done!
I asked the seller if it was possible to do the conversion using the original heater box, he replied:
it is possible but you have to cut and drill out some of the blanking bit on the housing and this will take you a bit longer. the i'm selling is one i used to upgrade my volvo with which i had to scrap and i found i easier to just split it in half rather than try to swap it over. it only took about 1/2 to 3/4 of an hour to fit the whole thing that way.
Can it be done as easily as the seller suggests?

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Post by petefarrell360 » 01 Apr 2008 04:23 pm

Chris is the expert on this one. I know he's done it at least once so far and removed the kit as well. I was tempted, but never got around to it. It is pretty simple, it's not a hard job to knock the panel out that then becomes hole where the flap that shuts or opens goes in the heater box. I'd personally go down that route, as if your own heater box is working ok it will save the need to remove it all. The only bit that gets me a little is the control panel inside the car. I've have varying amounts of sucess in removing different parts of it.

From what I've seen Tom, very early Mk3 GLT's got the air recirc here in the UK, so 86/87, but after that it was dropped from them. We've wondered before quite why it was dropped, purely a cost cutting exercise I expect. It may have even been fitted to most of the early Mk3's, as I think Nessy had it and she's a 340.

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Post by Chris_C » 01 Apr 2008 04:56 pm

It's fitted to nearly all D plated 300's from what I've seen. I completely forgot the damn auction ended on Sat, and got pwned at the last min :(

I need a kit for Fake, I have a button, but I gave/sold/swapped something my spare kit (infact... wasn't it to you Pete?! Dibsies if you want to give/sell/swap back!)

I'd do it on your own heater box, the only hard part out of the entire job is taken the facia panel out of the dash (anyone who has done it will know what I mean). Kit of parts includes: Manifold tapping/t piece (same as for econ depends on engine) tube, one way valve, button, valve for button, piston, big flap, bushing.

Take out your heater box (2 screws, 1 nut) pop off the clips, and stanley knife the panel out (you'll see if you look, theres a recessed line). Screw the bushing to the motor side of the inlet to the box, flap into bushing, and screw pison onto the other side of flap on the outside of the box.

Fit button into dash, with 2 hoses, OEM fit use solid plastic hoses through grommet in bulkhead, and rubber to valve and to piston/tapping. Button fits in the facia panel from underneath, but hoses have to go on top. Then run the hoses to piston, and to manifold tapping via one way valve (Kars with teh one way valve can hold the flap for months it was found when I parked it up!)

Job done. Re-circ rocks for heating you up in the winter. When I first got it, I put it and heated seats on, as it was -5 outside. I drove for 2-3 mins down the road, and I had to open my windows, it was roasting :lol:
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Post by jarlidge » 01 Apr 2008 05:19 pm

hi chris

i think i have a spare kit or two somewhere

cheers

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Post by Chris_C » 01 Apr 2008 09:32 pm

Awesome, sending you pm mate.
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Post by classicswede » 01 Apr 2008 09:32 pm

I have a felling the saloon I sold Bennet had that on. Could ask him if he knows where the car is now.
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Post by petefarrell360 » 02 Apr 2008 12:39 am

Not guilty Chris! Twas nee me who you swapped/sold/gave said recirc kit! I've got one myself kicking about somewhere, just never been bothered to fit it, the Volvo heating system is damn efficient anyway!

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Post by mac » 02 Apr 2008 03:55 pm

Afternoon all,

There seems to be one thing that no one has mentioned - in re-circ mode the heater draws air from the interior of the car - through a square hole pressed into the passenger side bulk head (this hole appeared with the '86' year model and I thought it was deleted arround the '88' year model - happy to be proved wrong though). You won't of course see this hole/vent unless you remover the heater box (or climb up under the dash on the passenger side).

When I retro-fitted my '84' Mk2 with an '87' heater system I had to cut this hole (used a monodex instead of a sparky plasma axe) and of course changed the whole heater box and fascia controls.

If you're adding re-circ to a "mk3" it's a lot lot easier but I'm not at all sure that the air hole is there on all later cars (of course the factory may simply have kept on using the bulkhead pressing "with a hole")


Of possible interest - I have reclaimed my old '84' and will in due course be breaking it for any good bits - so at least one more re-circ set will be about. (along with a GLT front chin spoiler, Smiths 6 dial dash, rear speaker set, and lots more).

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Post by petefarrell360 » 02 Apr 2008 04:42 pm

I can't be sure but I think the hole itself might still be there Mac, I know Chris C did a brute force and ninja style punch on the heater box to knock the plastic panel out to create the hole there, so I think it must the have had a hole present in the bulkhead, unless it's stucking the air through any surrounding holes. Good point though. I can't imagine they'd have gone to the effort of changing the bulkhead pressing, if the box seals over the hole well enough to keep air and water out, all should be well.

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Post by mickt » 02 Apr 2008 08:39 pm

Hi all

Without wanting to be favourite for fuddy-duddy of the year award ,can I say how much I have enjoyed reading this thread as it brought back happy memories of my first 300 which was equipped with one of these fancy gizmos which acually worked proving this fantastic engine (what Renault in a Volvo)actually had some suction . One of my memories is thinking/reading about what happens if/when the button is left depressed during the layover after a journey and whether it is switched on automatically the next time the engine warms up again . Believe it needs rebooting each time. I must add also the same car (June 1986 reg) had the ski-hole shutter in the rear seats behind a retracting centre arm-rest

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Post by Chris_C » 02 Apr 2008 09:31 pm

Mac, the hole of which you speak is still in the late ones, the one I fitted it too is my late 91, with one of the last chassis no's.

Mick.. if the one way valve is doing it's job, the system should stay in recirc whilst the engine is off, if it isn't, it will automatically go back to normal when the engine is off, and back to recirc if the button is pushed in when vacuum is present again.
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'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Post by mac » 03 Apr 2008 11:20 am

Thanks for that confirmation Chris - it's logical that they carried the same bulkhead over.

Nowadays of course it's all "just in time" manufacturing and "we can save money (1/320th. of a guilder) by deleting that hole.

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Post by filthyjohn » 03 Apr 2008 03:28 pm

You're right about penny pinching in modern auto manufacture Mac. When the euro 4 regulations came in, Nissan were still sending the old-tech diesel micras to countries outside the EU.
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