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gauge panel for first type console?

Post by antiekeradio » 09 Jul 2008 11:01 pm

In the parts book of the 343, there is a guage panel, which is different than the one you can fit to a 1979-1980

(it fits the 1976-1978 console)

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Post by antiekeradio » 10 Jul 2008 11:41 pm

something went wrong here :)


I meant to ask if anyone has ever seen one like this, or even better; has a picture of it...

i will post the picture from the parts book in due time (needs to be scanned still)

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Post by trabitom99 » 11 Jul 2008 09:04 am

I have a 1976 accessory brochure at home, I can scan the picture of the console if you like ...

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Post by antiekeradio » 11 Jul 2008 09:38 am

Hey, thats interesting. the oldest accessory leaflet I have is 1978

would it be possible to scan the entire thing? :P




just the console is great too, offcourse :wink:

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Post by trabitom99 » 11 Jul 2008 10:42 am

antiekeradio wrote:would it be possible to scan the entire thing? :P
Sure thing, I'll probably get round to it some time over the weekend. It's in Dutch, too ;-)

In the meantime, here's a pic to keep you going ;-)

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
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343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
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Post by antiekeradio » 11 Jul 2008 06:25 pm

hi Tom,

woops... already got that one (now i see the page you posted i realised)

however, my version does not contain the gauge panel.



the 1978 accessories catalogue has a zoomed-in picture of 3 guages, placed in a triangular fashion.

the image is referenced to as 'guage panel' so I think it is the panel, not the guages themselves, that should be the star of the show there.
(the exterior temperature guage comes back on another page, too)

however, the edges and/or surrounding of the panel are cut off the image....

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Post by trabitom99 » 11 Jul 2008 06:52 pm

You're right, the '76 brochure only covers the "pod" type gauges which are fitted to the left and right of the clock, above the dashboard:

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I assume the one you mean is this, part number 284511-3:

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It looks like this:

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
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Post by antiekeradio » 11 Jul 2008 10:52 pm

super cool !!! 8)

vielen dank für die Bilder! (thx for the pics)


still; 2 questions:

- is it a metal plate, or plastic??
- does it fit beneath the radio, or instead of it?




It looks like they changed the layout a bit, between parts book and the real-life version. 3 guages is better than one, anyways.

I would love to have a photocopy (or flatbed scan) to copy the dimensions from.

I once did the same for my DAF 55 coupé.
first I fitted the original Daf 1300 marathon console, a bit adapted to fit the coupé-dash. The default console has room for 3 guages (1x 60 mm, 2x 52 mm - just like this panel!!!!)

then I fabricated a "replica" auxillary panel (very rare to find original anyway) from 1 mm steel, wich houses another 3x 52 mm guages.

As the original panel was meant for a 66, I also switched aroudn with the function of the guages;

vacuum gauge 52 mm; 60 mm RPM meter; 52 mm outside temp. meter

3x52 mm: oil pressure, voltage, oil temperature

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Post by trabitom99 » 12 Jul 2008 01:30 pm

OK Wouter, give me a few days and I'll check the dimensions for you. It's made of plastic. Initially I'd assumed it fits underneath the radio "chute", but looking at the diagram again in the microfiche, I'm not so sure anymore ...

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343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
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Post by antiekeradio » 12 Jul 2008 07:02 pm

After much thought and comparison of picture and the console I have here, I think fits under the radio.


the metal bracket can be fixed to the 2 mounting screws of the console itself (where it is fitted to the prop tunnel)

the metal bushes will be fitted between the console and the bracket (to keep the right distance - the screws are placed in a cavity)

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Post by jtbo » 13 Jul 2008 02:51 am

Those Mk1 guages look so good that I soon feel money changing hands, too bad those might not fit into mk3 dash :(

41 set would be very nice :)
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Post by antiekeradio » 13 Jul 2008 10:43 am

I have both the vacuum meter and the exterior temperature meter as the above.

however, my car is a 1978 one, and thus it does not have the 'cap' around the clock, and has 2 ventilation openings where the accessory guages would sit.

So I was looking for a decent place to put them, other than ripping out the vents.


In the 1978 accessories brochure I see the 'ice warner' is a different model from the one in the above picture. :roll:

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Post by trabitom99 » 13 Jul 2008 09:34 pm

OK, here's a scan of the panel

front:
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back:
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If you PM me your email Wouter, I'll send you them in a higher resolution.

All three holes are 52mm wide (which is great, I always thought it a shame you had to choose between voltmeter, oil temp, oil pressure on the later versions). The middle one has an additional perforation - if you pop it out it increases to around 62 mm (I may be slightly out by a mm or two here, but it measures more than 60 mm?).
jtbo wrote:Those Mk1 guages look so good that I soon feel money changing hands,
I'm in two minds about selling it, I keep thinking if I get rid of my Mk1 and Mk2 parts (even though I have two Mk3s) the next day the perfect Mk1/2 will turn up on my doorstep and I'll regret it ;-)

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Post by antiekeradio » 14 Jul 2008 02:12 pm

PM sent.

the objective is not to buy this panel from Tom, but I really just want the information so I can reproduce it.

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