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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 29 Jan 2011 10:24 pm

all clear now, thanks for the help dude :)
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by foggyjames » 31 Jan 2011 12:48 am

For a given model-year, GLT struts are the same as other 360s struts...but the shocks inside them are indeed different. Gas vs oil, basically.

All 340s has the ARBs mounting to the "wishbones" (I use the term lightly...you know what I mean!), as did early 360s. Around 1986 the ARB mounting (on 360s) moved to being on the strut. So...make sure you get struts for a ~1986+ 360 (doesn't have to be a GLT) with the ARB link arm brackets fitted.

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by foggyjames » 31 Jan 2011 03:55 am

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 31 Jan 2011 11:18 am

foggy id 100% love to, but im the kinda of guy who would rather have a car that doesnt rub on the archs first :/ so i really should spend the money on getting these struts sorted.

Im getting alot of mixed info ont this. I've heard that the only springs are different, only the struts are and that only the bodys are (different springs pan) its getting very complicated lol. Dai suggested id some further measurements. from the hub to the springs pan, to see if there a different, if there is its the strut body if it isnt its spring/insert.

Are those wheels yours?

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by foggyjames » 31 Jan 2011 02:00 pm

No, just spotted them....pretty cheap if the tyres are any good!

I have a set of struts from a GLT here (sadly required for my own use...), and several from 340s. Next time I'm up at my unit, I'll take a tape measure ;) I'll put a tenner on the stub-axle-to-spring-cup distance being the same on all of them.

The only one I'm not completely sure about would be a very early car (-1980?)...but I suspect that again this is all about the springs.

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James
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 31 Jan 2011 04:07 pm

ok, cheers james. Due to to all the different info, it would easiest for to just get some struts straight off a 360 glt after 1986. Urmm the wheels are tempting
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by trabitom99 » 31 Jan 2011 05:08 pm

foggyjames wrote:Around 1986 the ARB mounting (on 360s) moved to being on the strut. So...make sure you get struts for a ~1986+ 360 (doesn't have to be a GLT) with the ARB link arm brackets fitted.
+1

Here're are the pics from the parts catalogue (CH 121000- is MY 1986 on):

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AUS = Australia
MAL = Malaysia
RI = ??

I've never quite understood why there is no Volvo part no. for a GLT spring - someone once said they might have been cut at the factory ;-)

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Tom
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360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 31 Jan 2011 05:18 pm

thats the strut i have, but the spring pan on one is different, could it be f*cked? lol!
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by trabitom99 » 31 Jan 2011 05:25 pm

Strut legs were sold "in one piece" from the factory, but a spring pan may have been welded in later (just as in the pic I posted on the previous page, that's the welded strut on my daily 360).

Don't want to create any further confusion but here's the "Volvo green book" entry on springs:

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Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 31 Jan 2011 10:07 pm

so the springs need to be 308mm long?

Theo do you know if you have a full set off a 360 glt?

If i need a new srping pan, id probs be best off just getting a new strut body
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by foggyjames » 01 Feb 2011 01:43 am

If the spring pans look different, I'd say one has partially collapsed / folded back on itself. The "taller" one is correct. That would certainly explain the difference in ride height. Replacing that strut alone (you could even retain the spring) ought to do the trick.

Tom - unless I'm missing something, there is a different PN listed there for springs for each engine...? I know GLEi models had a B200E, but for the most part E = GLT. Note there's also a different front spring for Aussie B200E cars. I remember something about a different coloured marking on those springs...?

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by trabitom99 » 01 Feb 2011 10:23 am

foggyjames wrote:Tom - unless I'm missing something, there is a different PN listed there for springs for each engine...? I know GLEi models had a B200E, but for the most part E = GLT. Note there's also a different front spring for Aussie B200E cars. I remember something about a different coloured marking on those springs...?
In Europe, the majority of injected 360s weren't GLTs. The standard ride-height B200Es / B19Es (GL Injection (hatch), GLE (injected saloon)) far outnumber the GLT versions, so I'm not really sure what type of spring the (non-Aus) version is in that catalogue ...

Both of these are B200Es (at the time on their original springs). Check out the ride height difference.
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Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 01 Feb 2011 11:04 am

so if get any new strut body it should fit? becuase someone did say that glts had different struts
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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by trabitom99 » 01 Feb 2011 11:11 am

The most important thing is that the strut body has the link arm brackets fitted. I'm 99% sure the length of these is the same on all but very early cars. If you look for a MkIII 360 strut body, you'll be on the safe side. GLT ones would be even better, as you'll have the shorter springs as well (which may be in better nick than yours), although if you're going to the trouble to take it all apart, you might as well fit new (Dai?) springs and shocks while you're at it.

Cheers

Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: New member, 360 glt

Post by Evoman » 01 Feb 2011 02:14 pm

excellent :) I probs cant afford new shocks. But if i get a strut body cheap enough ill get some lowering springs

thank you
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