JAK 74W

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Re: JAK 74W

Post by theo2468 » 07 Nov 2011 08:58 pm

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Re: JAK 74W

Post by MCHUDD » 07 Nov 2011 09:07 pm

Hi Helldriver.
That lot should be declared Treasure Trove and givin to a greatfull nation :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Chris_C » 07 Nov 2011 10:05 pm

Great stuff mate! I love it when things like that happen and am super glad it's not just me who does things like that!
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by foggyjames » 08 Nov 2011 03:17 am

I've had to stop doing that...I'm out of space, not to mention cash! :(

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'89 740 Turbo Intercooler
'88 360 Turbo Intercooler
'85 360 GLT
'81 343 GLS R-Sport
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by trabitom99 » 08 Nov 2011 09:11 am

Hell Driver wrote:On Saturday I went to Whitby to pick up some Mk1 headlamps I won on ebay in the search for a pair of perfect reflectors, not bad at £1.99 each! Of course I came back with not one but two pair of headlights (one really good one out of 4 :roll: ), and

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Wow ... :-)
foggyjames wrote:I've had to stop doing that...I'm out of space, not to mention cash! :(
Sounds familiar!

Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Nimminz » 08 Nov 2011 11:26 pm

:O i was in Whitby on saturday, does the seller have any other items? he didn't have a 144 did he?
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Hell Driver » 08 Nov 2011 11:38 pm

No 144 as far as I know, I got most of the 300 stuff, waiting to see what else crops up.

Had you gone for the Goth festival :P I hear it gets quite scary there that weekend and they are now banned from the Abbey for doing unspeakable things in the graveyard sm50

Didn't get as far as Whitby itself, just outside.

Nice drive over some very twisty North Yorks. moors roads north of Scarborough!
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360 GLS (A 84)
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360 GLS (Y 83)
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Nimminz » 08 Nov 2011 11:46 pm

ah rite, just there's a 144 that i've seen both in whitby and durham and he has loads of 940's at his house in durham and a 740 limo :D

I go to Whitby every weekend just about, Goth festival's always worth seeing, Unspeakable things happen in that graveyard all year round though :lol: There was also a hotrod / american car show on which i found by accident lol

There are some lovely roads round there, shame i'm always driving the family down in their automatic land rover discovery :/
'88 360 +T LSD - sold
'87 760 TDI (D24TIC) - sold
'04 V40 D sport (F9Q, decat, Remapped, launch control)
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by trabitom99 » 09 Nov 2011 08:41 am

You guys shouldn't be driving 300s, you should get one of these instead :lol:

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Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Hell Driver » 24 Jun 2012 11:42 pm

I made a statement last weekend in front of witnesses at the BKV that I'd start some proper work on this project this week (work other than collecting parts and shiny bits that is!)......so on Tuesday, I decided to start on preparing some parts which will go on the car.

Quick recap for anyone not reading the rest of the thread..........The aim of the project is to take the 1.4 manual 1980 (Mk1) and do the B230 Turbo engine swap. Of course, I'd be better starting with a 360, but there aint any Mk1 360's easily to hand around here, and I always like to make things difficult for myself anyway. The plan is to upgrade the brakes and suspension to at least 360 standard to help cope with the extra power. I'm not aiming to drift or race the car, I'd just like a fairly original looking Mk1 with plenty of power. I'm going for a 76/77 model year exterior with 1980 interior and as much power as it's reasonable to expect the transmission to take.

I have the car.
I have the block and the head.
I have a garage and garden full of rusty, not so rusty and new bits of car.

Although I've done various bits on these cars in the past there is plenty I've not done before so if anyone sees any mistakes/easier ways to do stuff shout it out at me, I won't be offended! I'll put plenty of pics in to help others who might be doing similar work.

Part 1 Rear Suspension

On Tuesday I started to strip down the GLT rear axle I got from the breakers last year. I have this and the rear axle from a GLS to choose parts from.
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I need the springs and rear hubs off this for the bigger drums.
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First job is to get the springs off, all nuts and bolts very rusty.
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Then the half shafts, these where normal bolts, not allen.
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Brakes dismantled, just the hubs to go.
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Bought a 3 legged puller to get the hubs apart. First time I've tried this job.
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Drive flange off, now to hit the shaft with a block of wood to avoid damage to get the hub off.
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On Wednesday I started to take the brake back plates off the exle.

This went OK except for one allen bolt which refused to come out. The head rounded off inside, which I though was odd becouse it was perfect, unmarked and unrusted. I had to grind the nut off the back to release it from the axle which left the bearing carrier still stuck to the back plate with a now useless bolt. Hammering, oil, heating all failed. I even put flats on the bolt end and put it in a vice to try to free it from the unthreaded alloy carrier...that failed too.

The alloy form the carrier had corroded into the threads and locked it solid, even inside the unthreaded carrier. I noticed that one of the other bolts had been very tight as well, this was half full of white alloy corrosion.

Not having a bench drill and decent quality drill bits a knew I'd never drill it out so I dropped it off with a man who has. It did need drilling half out before it could be drifted out without risking damage to the alloy carrier.

The wheel bearings are the type with the circlip, which are the later type.

I used the thread below for info on bearings and to see how to do the above... most usefull with photos!

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... l+bearings

Once I've removed the axle from the GLS can decide on which parts are the best, the GLT axle looks more rusty than the GLS one.
The GLT springs are covered in some kind of tar covered cloth, they look quite clean underneath, lets hope it's preserved them!
360 GLE Saloon (D 86)
360 GLS (A 84)
343 DL (W 80) :-)
340 GL 1.7 (G 89)
360 GLS (Y 83)
440 Turbo (J 92)
Transit Tipper 125 T350 (02)Alive Again!
Transit Tipper Smiley face Q reg
Mitsubishi Colt 1.1 (54)
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by classicswede » 25 Jun 2012 12:39 am

foggyjames wrote:You could use different size tyres on the rear to alter the gearing without throwing the speedo out...that goes for any size of rim! 195/50/15 and 185/55/15 equate to more or less the original rolling radius.

It's very much a matter of preference, but I'd run (within reason) the tallest diff I could find, for more relaxed cruising and better economy (at whatever speed!). The ratio is going to make a negligible performance difference with that much torque on board...they only put short diffs in the 1.4s to multiple the torque up, given that it's a bit short on juice relative to the weight. Provided it's above about 2500rpm, a B230 turbo in a 300 will pick itself up in 5th and charge like very little else on the road.

Interesting about your GLS, Steve...I'm just going on what the book says. It's possible it was swapped, but I agree relatively unlikely. It's on a sticker on the diff (drivers side, on the reverse side of the flange to the gearbox), so that'd have been the acid test.

cheers

James
I'm with James on this one. Fit the highest gearing you can with that engine. You will find yourself looking for 6th gear all the time on motorways otherwise. 240 GLT's do aprox in 5th 90MPH @ 3000RPM do not feel bogged down by the gearing.
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Chris_C » 25 Jun 2012 12:10 pm

Added to Dai's post, after living with Fake for 22,000 miles on the new engine, I'm setting up for swapping out the 3.64. Even with the rallying/autotesting/other stuff, a quick bit of maths says all it'll do is save me gearchanges (which cost moderately large fractions of seconds), not loose me huge acceleration time (which is small fractions of seconds)
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by MCHUDD » 25 Jun 2012 01:48 pm

Hi Helldriver.
Did Mrs Helldriver give you a bollocking for making that mess? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers Mark.
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Re: JAK 74W

Post by Hell Driver » 25 Jun 2012 04:56 pm

No, I think she's just glad that a bit of 'crap' which had been lying about in the garden for months had been made to dissapear into smaller bits, now out of sight in boxes :lol:

Dai and Chris, yes I've decided to go for the GLS diff for better higher speed cruising/fuel economy. (Assuming it's in good condition)
360 GLE Saloon (D 86)
360 GLS (A 84)
343 DL (W 80) :-)
340 GL 1.7 (G 89)
360 GLS (Y 83)
440 Turbo (J 92)
Transit Tipper 125 T350 (02)Alive Again!
Transit Tipper Smiley face Q reg
Mitsubishi Colt 1.1 (54)
R.I.P. 77 343 DL vario :-(

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Re: JAK 74W

Post by SteveP » 25 Jun 2012 05:20 pm

Well you're living up to your statement of getting to work on it this week :D Looking forward to seeing how this comes along. Just don't get Jack to inspect your handywork :wink: :lol: :oops:
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