Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Exhausted

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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Exhausted

Post by macplaxton » 26 Dec 2011 05:11 pm

Well I thought I'd best start a thread for this car.

I recently got round to drilling some holes in some number plates. This has taken me some time, as I first had to register the car and hand over money (€200 sm2 ). Then I had to wait a while for the plates to be made up and go and fetch them. Couldn't fit them when I got them, as I was waiting for some wheels along with the number plate brackets to come back from the powder coaters...Then I needed to find some less grotty screws for said brackets. Now it's just bloody cold outside! Excuses, excuses.

The front number plate is held on by two regular plastic number plate screws. These screws are secured in 20mm long slots to allow horizontal variation of number plate holes depending on how you drill your plate. The 2 brackets are pressed steel and have two rubber strips per side between the bracket and front valance. They are secured to the valance by two screws (4.2mm x 16mm pan-head Pozidrive self-tapping) into plastic inserts in the valance.

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The rear number plate is held on in a similar fashion, however the plastic number plate screws this time screw into captive plastic nuts which are held in place by a slider bar which is in turn screwed into plastic inserts on the rear panel.

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The front ones were quite rusty and bent where the plate must have taken a knock at the bottom edge, but I straightened them out as best I could. The rear bar was also surface rusty, so I just chucked them all in to get blasted and powder coated. Front ones although crappy, at least look like this now:

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and the rear:

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Goodbye old plates, hello new:

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Now there was the lengthy period of careful consideration and many, many measurements. Being old-school plates with riveted-on digits, I had a take care not to plonk the holes in the wrong place and in the gaps between the digits.

The rear one was quite easy as there is a lot more horizontal movement available.

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The front one was a bit more difficult with less horizontal movement and the spacing of the mounting brackets, so I had to move the plate down a bit.

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With plastic screws, you can readily obtain them in white, yellow, black and blue - but not red. So had to get some red paint out.

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So after all that, I now have front and rear plates attached to the car:

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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty

Post by MCHUDD » 26 Dec 2011 05:24 pm

Hi mate.
Car is looking spot on.
Those plates are better looking than the plastic jobs we get up here.
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Flipper

Post by macplaxton » 26 Dec 2011 05:56 pm

Cheers Mark, I got one of the last four number ZV plates (Dublin's 2nd allocation runs from 7201 to 17200), they had 110 left up to 9999, but then the spoilsports jumped up to 10001 at the start of December, some areas already had five number ZVs, but the whole system is crap. No proper age-related plates here :x At least my registration can be shown properly on the old style plates.

Next up was a small job involving
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No! NOT FLIPPER
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I had to replace the plate that holds the towing electrics socket and also needed a tow ball cover. Chrome is a bit too bling for me, but I wanted a flipper. Bradley Doublelock only do the chrome ones now, but in the past, they did a black one. Luckily I managed to lay my hands on a black one. 8) For those that don't know what a flipper is, it is

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and looks like,

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Even the instruction sheet font and style looks like it is straight from the 1970s.

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Unfortunately, it's hee-haw use to those continental folk who don't tend to have flanged tow bars.
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty

Post by volvosneverdie » 26 Dec 2011 06:02 pm

Always keep your ball covered. Thats my motto. :lol:
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - winter wheels

Post by macplaxton » 26 Dec 2011 06:31 pm

Good advice there VND!

Still had another few wee jobs to do before I could use the car again. It had sat on the drive for two months :oops:

First was to find a 24mm socket to remove the locking wheel nuts as the key had gone walkabout long before I got the car :x

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I think you can still get them in that style, but they might need threads tapping in them for the old-school stainless domed covers. Modern ones have naff chrome effect plastic hex covers. Then it was trip down to Halfords (it was Sunday or something and I still get 15% off with my ex-insurer's discount card) and all I could get were some McGard 24152 lockers which are a bit tall for my liking, but I couldn't be bothered finding some regular nuts.

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Off came the GT alloys (and out came the spare, which is also a GT), with 5 completely different tyres. The main 4 were apparently £10 a piece fitted from the scrappy, but having driven the holiday on them, I wasn't a big fan of their qualities.

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And with an ex-VND set of 4 steelies (the ones I got a couple of winters ago), that were back from the powder coaters

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They were shod with four new tyres (ignore the rogue Pug 106 spare on the top of the pile - job on the wife's car)

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I now have on these:

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Four 175/70 13 Vredestein Snowtrac 3s which will be on until Spring. The GT wheels have gone to the powder coaters in the meantime. I'm still waiting for some cold weather though...today it's been 11C. :(

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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - fuel filter

Post by macplaxton » 26 Dec 2011 06:56 pm

Having sat for 2 months, the carb had gone dry. I had fitted an in-line fuel filter to stop crap getting to the carb, but I had positioned it just before the mechanical pump. This doesn't appear to be optimal, as the pump seems unable to draw from the tank when cranking a dry system. It's fine if there is fuel in the float chamber of the carb, as it'll fire up from the fuel in there and operate the pump fast enough to continue to pull fuel through.

Even though it hadn't been on long (say 600-odd miles), it had a lot of sediment in it.

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So off it came and another fitted

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Then I primed the float chamber from a petrol can and connected everything back up. Starting then was easy. During the job, I found the battery didn't have all that much spare oomph to crank the engine over for a period. I took it inside to give it a charge, refit it when done, and made a mental note to do something about it later.
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by MCHUDD » 26 Dec 2011 08:23 pm

Hi mate.
The steelies look good. I am not a great fan of them but when
they are done up they look well.
This motor looks like its getting ready for another epic road trip :lol:
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by S10NPH » 27 Dec 2011 04:44 pm

Hi

Good to see some more pictures, although those plate designs look very foreign to my British-trained eyes! I do like the raised numbering though. When's work going to commence on the rear quarter?

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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by Nimminz » 27 Dec 2011 07:59 pm

looking good! I can't decide which wheels i like best, the steelies or the GT alloys lol
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by volvosneverdie » 27 Dec 2011 08:34 pm

I think the steels look awesome coated personally. 8)
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by SteveP » 28 Dec 2011 12:20 am

Get some chrome beauty rings on them steelies :)
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - number plates

Post by macplaxton » 28 Dec 2011 09:22 am

S10NPH wrote:When's work going to commence on the rear quarter?
Siôn, it'll commence sometime next year. That side of the car really wants doing first. It's a bit ropey underneath, not helped by scrapyard handling.
SteveP wrote:Get some chrome beauty rings on them steelies :)
Booo!!! But I'm trying to find something black to go in the middle and cover up the nuts and hubs.

Update in the pipeline later
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Vario swap

Post by macplaxton » 28 Dec 2011 08:13 pm

Update time. The transmission on this car needed swapping. The original has rust on the pulleys in the wrong places and consequently had become a belt eater - estimate of 4K miles for a pair. :shock: Out it had to come...

I went down the road yesterday around 3.30pm to where I have my stash, and after a bit of chat, it was dark (maybe 5.30pm?) and I set about doing some work on the car.

Part one was to extract a good Vario out of car one. Outside, with it blowing a hooley. Seems simple enough, but it's sitting on soft ground and minus a front strut, so I can't exactly move it to the workshop to do it. :?
After a prolonged period of time (didn't really do much clock watching) and probably around 10pm I had the thing out.

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This one is nice as the pulleys faces you could eat your dinner off. So clean! (as an aside, when did they get rid of those plastic fan blades on the inside of the primary halves? or are they missing?)

Some pics of the old one:
In the car:
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nearside primary corrosion
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nearside secondary corrosion
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offside primary corrosion
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offside secondary corrosion
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I should of got some of the replacement unit, the pulleys on that are absolutely mint.

Part two was to extract the Vario from the BB (which was also missing both parts of the plastic transmission guard). The things that hampered extraction: couple of CV joint bolts - the socket heads were a bit mashed. Managed to get them out by reversing a 8mm socket bit (the bit that goes into the bit-holder is slightly over 6mm :wink: ). The pin that goes into the selector rod at the transmission end. The pin was seized into the small metal bush that sits inside the nylon bush. Work was a bit easier indoors and on the lift.

Decided to stack some tyres up
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and dump the unit on the stack
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Part three was to get the replacement Vario back in. That was a bit tricky. Decided on using a trolley jack as it is more manoeuvrable. Got it back in again, but had a few things to contend with that ate loads of time up. The killer was trying to sort out the pin to go into the selector rod at the transmission end.

The one in the car was damaged. It was one of those with a sliding clip into a groove in the end. However the opposite end seemed to be a small washer fitted in a groove and peened over? Either way cobbling it back together was rather fruitless as the head came off it sm2 . Why didn't I use the clevis pin from the other car? Well when I took it out, I didn't lose the R-clip. But I didn't catch the pin, but it didn't fall to the floor. Then when I was doing another bit, I heard/felt it falling onto my chest. Then I could find the damn thing. After all the fruitless messing with the other pin, and several in the dark expeditions to try and find the old pin on grass. I was about to give up. Then I went for about the 7th visit outside and a smoke and found it at the back of the car! This time it was about 5.30am. Don't you just love those jobs that go waaaaay over schedule.

Last job was to adjust the length of the selector rod and everything was good on the way home. I didn't change the Roulunds belts on this transmission as there is a bit to go before they're dead.

Now I don't know why I took the "book of lies" down with me. It does give instructions on how to remove the transmission whole, but there are a few omissions.

Here's a quick run-down off the top of my head of the process:
1) Remove propshaft by sliding it back first off the front spline ad then forwards odd the rear spline.
2) Remove transmission covers inner and outer. (dropping the exhaust at the rear will give some more room)
3) Undo drive shaft coupling at the inner ends and tie back.
4) Unclip handbrake cable supports on rear Vario support bar.
5) Undo handbrake cable coupling above middle of Vario and move out of the way.
6) Remove selector rod pin from primary unit selector arm.
7) Remove selector rod pin from gear lever end and move rod forwards out of the way (or remove selector rod support bracket and take out the whole thing)
8) Remove both Vario F-R vacuum hoses from T-pipe in the middle.
9) Slacken the four outer corner mounting nuts and get rear to catch the lump with something suitable. WARNING! It's around 80kg.
10) I've probably forgot something, let me know if I have!

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Edit: Forgot to add that I buggered up the two rear rubber mounts on the car. I recommend thoroughly cleaning the exposed threads first and soaking them in something like Plus Gas, rather than brute force :oops: That way the bolts won't tear out. I bust both rear ones. Fortunately, rather than going out in the heavy rain that came later on to retrieve a pair from car one, I ventured into another barn to have a quick check in boxes of DAF 66 leftovers and as luck would have it, I'd saved all four from the crashed one. Save me a lot of time/drowning. The two front ones are smaller. All four are identical to DAF 66 ones (which is no surprise really).
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Corrosion assessment

Post by macplaxton » 29 Dec 2011 03:11 pm

Without the MOT man's toffee hammer...

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...But with eyeball Mk1.

The other night wasn't the night to go prodding the hell out of the shell, but I'd did have a bit of a butchers in between swearing at the Vario. Most of it is plain old rust, with the odd bit of scrapyard handling damage thrown in. It really was very, very close to crusher when Stefan stepped in.

Starting at the offside rear of the sill outer
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offside rear jacking point inner
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offside front outrigger (just behind front wheelarch)
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offside front sill outer
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offside front sill inner
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offside middle sill outer
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offside transmission cooling duct/chassis leg
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nearside middle outer
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nearside middle inner
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nearside rear transmission cooling duct/chassis leg
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A shed load of work to do on this during 2012. :cry:
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Re: MY78 343DL Black Beauty - Corrosion assessment

Post by Chris_C » 29 Dec 2011 03:27 pm

Ouch :s

I'll offer some sacrifices to the god's of Mig if I was you chap :shock: Are you going to straighten out the forklift marks on the rails too?

Those sills arn't too bad to do as long as you are methodical at least, but it'd going to be a fair chunk of time.
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