my b230fk into a 360 build thread, winter refresh!

[wiganer31]

found a place that keeps the seals in stock the lump shpuld be in early next week and hopefully get its first start in the 360,

good to see the other guys on here up and running

[Nimminz]

nice one! Bet you can't wait to get it done after the search for a flywheel

[wiganer31]

to rite mate, like i say im at that stage were i feel like jacking it all in lol, be worth it when its in and running and i can bring it home and work on it on my terms instead of waiting for the lad that owns the unit to let me in

[foggyjames]

Aye...don't pack it in...it'll be worth it

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

i hope so lol, na im sure it will be when its back on the road

[foggyjames]

If you need some motivation, have you seen the video of Adam's car? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K4bJFkm0-4

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

yea its good to see it up and running, has it got no air box on in that vid by any chance?

[foggyjames]

It's got a cone filter one....but no exhaust It was running half a downpipe, but the lambda sensor...er..."suffered a failure", and we needed to remove the DP in order to get it out, so just left it off. It'll be getting an exhaust in the near future.

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

gotta love hearing the turbo though for no exhaust it isnt that loud

[foggyjames]

It's louder than the video makes out...but it is surprisingly quiet. That's the small turbo for you Still, a small turbo is good for drifting...torque on demand, etc...

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

i hope so as thats sorta what im building the car for lol,


what power can the 360 transmision handle?

[foggyjames]

Torque is the important factor, and 250-300lbft is about your safe limit.

8v redblocks make torque quite easily, but peak power is harder to achieve. For example, wind the boost up to 12psi or so on the small turbo and you'll probably be making 230-250lbft but less than 200bhp. In other words, you're quite close to your limit, without actually making that much power. The plan for my turbo conversion is to keep the torque down to that sort of figure (maximum of 15psi of boost), but make as close to 300bhp as I can by making it breathe at higher engine speeds - primarily in terms of exhaust, cam, and turbo size. Just turning the boost up would be easier, but not good news for the drivetrain.

Of course when you actually break stuff has more to do with how you drive than how strong bits are. Try hard enough, and you'll break stuff with a standard B200E. Treat it gently, and you could probably get the stock drivetrain to hold best part of 400bhp.

Personally, I'd get it up and running as standard and see how you get on. I reckon a standard engine with 10psi or so of boost will be pretty entertaining. If you need more, I would look into more "traditional" tuning, rather than just taking the easy route and turning the boost up. I would also bear in mind that a reliable car with 200bhp (considering that it only weighs just over a ton, so that's still more or less E46 M3 fast) is much nicer to own that one with 300bhp that's continuously in pieces...unless you particularly enjoy fixing cars regularly, of course!

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

the turbo lumps sat in the car need to put a few more bolts in the bell houseing and then start on the wireing etc

[foggyjames]

Good effort. How's the turbo/engine mount clearance? Now the fun part begins!

cheers

James

[wiganer31]

its looking tight really, gonna go and have a proper look now, dont like the sound of this fun part lol,
what clutch cable and throttle cable do i need btw? i have read it at some point but its all starting to go over my head now lol

cheers