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trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 27 Aug 2011 03:13 pm

hi, ive searched and searched but cant find what im lookinhg for,

as you know im in the middle of a b230fk conversion into my 360 but i cant find a lh2.4 flat flywheel, so im looking into the trigger wheel idea, whats involved with useing a trigger wheel? how much wireing is required? i thought it was just a case of fitting the trigger wheel and moveing the cps to the front of the engine but im told it isnt that simple, and that it needs to run a wasted spark setup? i dont really understand anymore :lol: can anyone help? and can people who have done it show me pics ofhow they have fitted there trigger wheel and cps?


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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by Chris_C » 27 Aug 2011 05:44 pm

No, that's bollocks.

All the trigger wheel is doing is pretending to be the flywheel as your other flywheel would then be different (i.e. not have the same pattern on it) You just need a 60-2 trigger wheel, machined to fit the front crank pully, and some way of holding the CPS over it that doesn't involve either gaffer tape nor cable ties :lol:
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 27 Aug 2011 06:28 pm

ahh cheers mate, so im rite in thinking its just a case of extending the wires? thats what i was thinking anyways lol, dose the end of the cps have to touch the trigger wheel as it spins?

and i like duck tape and zip ties :( lol

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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by Chris_C » 27 Aug 2011 07:48 pm

Yeah, just make sure they reach, they may not need to be extended. From memory (I could be wrong) it may be co-ax cable it needs to be extended with. But have a look at the 940 sender, if it's normal wires its super easy.
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 27 Aug 2011 08:08 pm

Cheers for tour help mate,


I'm still being advised against a trigger wheel setup, could someone clear a few things up that I've been told, apparently people carnt get the car to run rite when useing this setup on this engine? Apparently its hard work to so this setup?

I really don't know what to do now, do I carry on lookig for a flywheel? ( I've been looking for over 2 mounths btw), or do I risk trying a trigger wheel?

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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by Chris_C » 27 Aug 2011 08:38 pm

Who has been having issues on this setup?

A flywheel is neater. You use existing brackets and it looks OEM. However, both just make the same switching pattern so the ECU knows where the crank is. Electrically, there is no difference. If you can make the bracket for the CPS accurately and the trigger wheel is machined accurately, then the ECU has no idea which setup you use.

If however you don't do things accurately (and this applies to everything on a car) something won't work as it should.
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by L14MNP » 27 Aug 2011 09:42 pm

If you do need to extend any wires then you're better off extending the loom where the CPS connects and not the CPS itself.

Mine melted on the EGR and was a bitch to repair. (I replaced it and removed the EGR).

You should have no trouble with a trigger wheel if you do as above.
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by Nimminz » 27 Aug 2011 10:39 pm

Its 2 core wire + sheilding that is also connected. Red and blue wire's inside. Wire is shielded right back to the ignition module. As liam said its probably best to do the lengthening at the plug. this wire would probably be ok:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/2-core-overall- ... screen-127

I'd say trigger wheel will be the easiest. As long as, as chris said, everything is done accurately and aligned properly, it'll all go smooth.
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 27 Aug 2011 11:00 pm

thanks for all your help lads, chris i dont know whos been haveing the problems, its what someone told me they read on the net, but all the stuff ive read is simular to what you guys are saying,
think im gonna go ahead and buy a trigger wheel when i find the link lol, think its in my build thread, just watch a flywheel turn up when ive got a trigger wheel lol, i would still buy it tbh, if anyones got any pics of there setup then post them up 340pw

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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 27 Aug 2011 11:13 pm

this was the link thanks to nimminz: http://www.034motorsport.com/034efi-eng ... p-105.html

anyone ordered anything from that site? im not big on internet shopping :|

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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by 340GLT » 28 Aug 2011 02:46 pm

Give colin a call at C - P Motors in tamworth. he will more than likely have a flywheel in stock
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Re: trigger wheel setup

Post by wiganer31 » 29 Aug 2011 06:20 pm

cp havent got back to me yet but gonna try them again tomorrow,


still being told against a trigger wheel but i dont see the problem, will the trigger wheel upset the balence on the crank? how do you attach them tpo the pully?

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