360 pas to manual steering conversion

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wiganer31
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360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 19 Sep 2012 09:24 pm

has anyone converted a 360 with pas to non pas? ive had aload of problems with the power steering due to some nob threading the fittings on the pipes, so ive decided just to get rid of the power steering,

i have a spare manual steering rack here anyways, only problem is were it bolts to the steering column its differnt to the one on my 360,
this is the fitting on the manual rack: Image

and this is the fitting on my 360: Image
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is there abit that bolts to the manual rack and then to my column? or dose it need a none pas column? sorry if its been covered but nothing seems to come up when i search for some reason,

also ive been haveing a problem with my steering pulling to the side, but it seems to change from pulling left to pulling to the right when you go over bumps to of pull harsh turns, theres nothing bent that i can find and ive been and had the tracking check and they said the tracking was spot on so im stumped now,


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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Nimminz » 19 Sep 2012 09:30 pm

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... as#p163171

think you'll need the next bit up from that rubber thing, wouldnt be too hard to make from scratch i dont think, i'm still debating swapping mine or i'd have offered you the bit i have

theres a pic of my manual rack in that link
'88 360 +T LSD - sold
'87 760 TDI (D24TIC) - sold
'04 V40 D sport (F9Q, decat, Remapped, launch control)
'89 740 SE (b230ft, 12psi, V-cam, headwork, 'remapped', banded steels)
'86 340 DL 1.4

Evoman
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Evoman » 19 Sep 2012 10:45 pm

What will you be doing with your old rack?

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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 19 Sep 2012 10:55 pm

cheers mate the for somereason nothing is comeing up when i search, ive never seen the long bit that comes directly out of your rack but the next bit that bolts to it looks like the bit i need? what belt was you planning on useing? you planning on doing a engine conversion on yours? ihad no problems with the exhaust being to close on mine etc.


im not to sure tbh evoman, not sure if im gonna clean the threads up and put a new pipe on and keep it just incase or just see if anyones interested in it


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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Evoman » 19 Sep 2012 11:01 pm

If there is no play in the rack ends id be interested in them
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wiganer31
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 19 Sep 2012 11:06 pm

ive had the rack off and didnt notice any play and the steering feels good on the car apart from the pulling issue but think i might know what that is, if i decide to sell it i will let you know mate


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Logan360
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Logan360 » 20 Sep 2012 10:43 am

GAH!!!!!

give me ps pieces now!

lol na my manual rack on my daily started to fail so i was like ah ps time but i too have encountered the steering column problem. and i have misplaced all my brackets and mounts. turned out to be a swear word full day so came home and did an oil change in the dark on my other car.

I may do however need before mentioned bits.
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86 360GLT
97 S90
92 960S, Royal
01 Subaru Lancaster 6
96 Volvo 854R

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E90 320 M-sport wagon
S60T -Mazda Familia
850lpt -AU Falcon
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wiganer31
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 20 Sep 2012 05:59 pm

ya dont need power steering lol, dont know what im gonna do with the bits i take off because im starting to think i need all the spares i can get, if i do decide to let them, go i will let you know if you want, pumps off a b230fk so dont know how much use that would be on a 40/60

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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Logan360 » 20 Sep 2012 07:33 pm

I had a manual rack but it tossed a balljoint and split the rubber up the steering column so thought why not go pas? i had a setup in my spare room anyways. but I've lost the universal and the mounting plates. atm its taking up space at my friends workshop so could you let me know asap please?
Own:
86 360GLT
97 S90
92 960S, Royal
01 Subaru Lancaster 6
96 Volvo 854R

Owned
E90 320 M-sport wagon
S60T -Mazda Familia
850lpt -AU Falcon
855T5 -91, 95, 97 960
940TIC -Mitsi GTO TT
16x 360-Toyota corolla
Toyota corona-R32 Skyline
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Ride_on » 21 Sep 2012 10:12 pm

I have PS parts, rack/pump/tank, but no column. Also both types of down pipe in good nick. No plans to use PS or spare down pipes. Going turbo anyway.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Nimminz » 22 Sep 2012 01:19 pm

wiganer31 wrote:cheers mate the for somereason nothing is comeing up when i search, ive never seen the long bit that comes directly out of your rack but the next bit that bolts to it looks like the bit i need? what belt was you planning on useing? you planning on doing a engine conversion on yours? ihad no problems with the exhaust being to close on mine etc.
I'm guessing you'll have a UJ further up inside the car, if thats the case you'll need something to go between the rubber bit and the UJ. The bit I've got would fit the Rubber vibration damper you have but probably wouldn't reach the UJ.
I'd say get a peice of ~3mm steel plate say 15mm wide 50mm long, drill the two holes and find bolts to bolt it to the rubber damper, Once that's done find some bar of the right diameter and that reaches the UJ, At the UJ end it has two sides flattened down that slot into the UJ. Then weld this to the plate mensioned before, bolt the plate to the Rubber damper and then clamp the end with the flattened sides into the UJ and hey presto it should work.

Unless you can find a bit that fits, I'll have a look at the parts catalogue - What Year is your car? and what year is the Manual rack?

I might do the 2.3T swap like you have but will be at somepoint in the future. If there's room for the exhaust i might keep the PAS :)
'88 360 +T LSD - sold
'87 760 TDI (D24TIC) - sold
'04 V40 D sport (F9Q, decat, Remapped, launch control)
'89 740 SE (b230ft, 12psi, V-cam, headwork, 'remapped', banded steels)
'86 340 DL 1.4

wiganer31
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 22 Sep 2012 10:10 pm

logan will let you know as soon as mate,

dont need to make one anymore, managed to pick this up today Image
looks about right size, dose it bolt straight to the rubber bit? (ie theres no plate that goes inbertween it or something?) take its meant to move abit with the rubber as a damper?


found this when i took the rack and subframe off today
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anyone any idea why its catching now? it wasnt before i first took it off, couldnt be something to do with the pulling to oneside problem could it? also would fuked top mounts cause that problem?



cheers

wiganer31
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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 23 Sep 2012 07:22 pm

just realised i didnt put my cars a 1989 nimminz, i feel i should put you off the conversion but you might have more luck and you will know more lol, tbf i did the conversion mainly learn and see if i could do it,

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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by wiganer31 » 23 Sep 2012 08:10 pm

my mates just come up with a good point that i hadent even thought about, what to do about the belt tensioner as its on the power steering pump on the b230fk?

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Re: 360 pas to manual steering conversion

Post by Evoman » 23 Sep 2012 09:06 pm

wiganer31 wrote:my mates just come up with a good point that i hadent even thought about, what to do about the belt tensioner as its on the power steering pump on the b230fk?
Is there no b230ks without power steering? Does the belt not just run the power steering pump?
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