Front sub frame removal.

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Number 47
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Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 28 Feb 2014 07:52 pm

Anything I need to know? I am dropping the front sub frame with the steering rack attached, I have disconnected the steering rack at the big rubber bush and am removing the 17mm bolts either side. They are an absolute nightmare to move, using a breaker bar I'm breaking my arms but they are moving. Brake pipes are disconnected and it appears the only thing left is to pull through the speedometer cable.

Never done this before so just want to check I'm not getting into anything nasty or dangerous before I drop all the bolts tomorrow. Any advice?
Many thanks.

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Ride_on » 28 Feb 2014 09:27 pm

Should not be too hard, I presume you are having difficulty with the radius arm mounts. I'll just say man the fk up ;)

Do try to get some release oil into the thread barrels as sometimes they can detach internally. You can try squirting in from the bumper vents for the main bolts.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 01 Mar 2014 01:14 pm

The thread barrels detaching was what I was mainly worried about. Manning up did the trick, the 1/2 liter of threadlock on each bolt certainly did what it was intended to do. I can barely type, my arms are shaking so bad. I do however, have a large rusty lump of metal on my garage floor ready for prep and paint.

YAY! :(

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by classicswede » 01 Mar 2014 09:53 pm

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 02 Mar 2014 11:48 am

Would have been nice Dai!

I actually got a compressor, little draper 28l, brand new. Got it for nothing as a trade for fixing 2 computers at work. It came with a spray gun and other bits and bobs but I have to wait till we put the next draper order through to get a windy gun.

I'm a bit annoyed at living here in Ireland, got a quote last night for blasting the subframe. (Minus radial arm mounts) €80. :shock:

Hoping to get a better price from a firm that fixes radiators that I deal with through work.

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Ride_on » 02 Mar 2014 03:35 pm

Blasting should be pretty cheap, I got a load of parts done for £40 in the north. If its heavily rusted blasting won't work that well, seams and cavities will not be cleaned. You need acid dip or depaneling.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 02 Mar 2014 04:11 pm

Ride_on wrote:Blasting should be pretty cheap, I got a load of parts done for £40 in the north. If its heavily rusted blasting won't work that well, seams and cavities will not be cleaned. You need acid dip or depaneling.
Should be cheap but not here in the rip off republic. People think their time is worth more than it is. When you can get a nice looking escort for the evening for the same price as an hour sandblasting something is not right. (Not that I frequent the ladies of the night, a guy at work likes to brag about his escapades)

The rust is not too bad, a few localised surface patches, it is mainly just to clean it for paint.

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Ride_on » 02 Mar 2014 04:23 pm

Lol I thought you meant a Ford Escort.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by macplaxton » 02 Mar 2014 04:49 pm

Or Ford Razzle / Ford Reader's Wives bum special....

Yep, powder coating / blasting is expensive down here Tony. Swings and roundabouts though, it's not like we're dropping the best part of 2k yoyos on council tax. €8.65 p/h minimum wage has to come out in the wash somewhere. I don't moan about it now as I know where the boat is :lol:
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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 02 Mar 2014 05:52 pm

macplaxton wrote:Or Ford Razzle / Ford Reader's Wives bum special....

Yep, powder coating / blasting is expensive down here Tony. Swings and roundabouts though, it's not like we're dropping the best part of 2k yoyos on council tax. €8.65 p/h minimum wage has to come out in the wash somewhere. I don't moan about it now as I know where the boat is :lol:
True. Min wage=mad prices.

Give them a chance though, I'm sure the property tax will get there soon enough!

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Ride_on » 03 Mar 2014 03:12 am

I know what you're saying but how much labour does it take to blast a crossmember, direct or indirect? Probably more of a case of supply and demand.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by macplaxton » 03 Mar 2014 03:40 am

Ride_on wrote:Probably more of a case of supply and demand.
Plus a bit of milking it!
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Re: Front sub frame removal.

Post by Number 47 » 03 Mar 2014 09:45 pm

Got the 4 bits done for €40 in my local engineering shop. Could have had dip and galvanise for the same money but would be a week on wednesday before I got them back. It certainly pays to shop around.

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