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Noise from front suspension

Post by volvo300 » 18 Mar 2006 06:32 pm

Hi.

I have a problem.

Ever since I changed the shocks and spring, there has been a knackering sound from the right strut. The sound comes everytime I drive on a rough surface.

Yesterday I took the right front tyre off and I noticed that the sound came from the upper end of the strut between the "upper mounting" and the "cover plate". I have drawed a circle around the items.

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The Haynes book says, that the top nut ('12' on the pic) should not be tightend to the right tourqe until the car stands on the ground.
I did that the best way I could,. but it seems that when I drive on rough roads the "upper mounting" ('11') and the "cover plate" ('8') hammers together because of the spring and shock is moving up and down.

It seems like I haven't tightened it enough!
The left side is OK and doesn't have this behaviour!

What dou you guys do when you do such a job?
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Post by bennett » 18 Mar 2006 07:41 pm

lowered or stock?
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Post by volvo300 » 18 Mar 2006 09:27 pm

bennett wrote:lowered or stock?
Hi.
It's std. Volvo springs and gas shocks.
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Post by classicswede » 19 Mar 2006 01:58 pm

What will have happened is the spring top ( 8 ) will have come appart or the bearing (9) will have collapsed. I have seen it a few times.
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Post by volvo300 » 19 Mar 2006 09:03 pm

classicswede wrote:What will have happened is the spring top ( 8 ) will have come appart or the bearing (9) will have collapsed. I have seen it a few times.
Hi Dai.

If the cover plate ('8') has come loose, what can I do? Can I fix this in some way or must I buy a new "rubber top mounting"?

If it's the bearing that has collapsed (most likely), then it's just a matter of buying a new one (and a new "upper spring seat" because that's not in a very good shape) !

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Post by classicswede » 20 Mar 2006 09:36 pm

volvo300 wrote:If it's the bearing that has collapsed (most likely), then it's just a matter of buying a new one (and a new "upper spring seat" because that's not in a very good shape) !

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That is the most likely the upper spring seats are the ones that fall apart. While you looking at it it would be worth making sure the rubber spring top is not coming appart. If it looks all cracked then replace at the same time.
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Post by Tero Huikko » 20 Mar 2006 10:57 pm

Fought on the same subject a little while ago...swapped the top rubbers - now it's fine.
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Post by volvo300 » 22 Mar 2006 08:37 am

Tero Huikko wrote:Fought on the same subject a little while ago...swapped the top rubbers - now it's fine.
Hi again.
I have bought two new upper spring seats, two new thrust bearings and two new top rubbers - All from the local Volvo delaer (.

I'll changes everything next weekend, and let you all know!

Thanks all for your replies :-)

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Post by volvo300 » 01 Apr 2006 04:02 pm

Hi again.

Now I have replaced the following (in both sides):

- Springs
- Upper seats
- Thrust bearings
- Rubber mountings
- protective gaiter
- link rods for anti roll bar

I took the Olvo for a spin, and the noise is STILL there :-(
Apparently there where noises from both the thrust bearing and the hidden place.
Cr_p :evil:
What else can be making the noise? Could it be the rubber bushings in the radius arm or the rubber bushings in the lower suspension arm?
I'm going crazy... every time I drive over a little bump, the noise comes :-(
I can't hear where exactly the noise comes! After I replaced the other parts, it seems to come from the radius arm, but I'm not sure.
Please help.

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Post by classicswede » 01 Apr 2006 05:50 pm

Is it a squeak or a thumping noise that it makes?
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Post by volvo300 » 01 Apr 2006 06:31 pm

classicswede wrote:Is it a squeak or a thumping noise that it makes?
Hi Dai.

It's not a squeak, but I don't know what a "thumping noise" is?

The noise is more like a rattle noise. It's like something is loose, but I can't seem to find anything that's loose...

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Post by daffodil » 01 Apr 2006 06:31 pm

you need to make sure that the shock insert is tightened up very tight in the strut

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Post by volvo300 » 02 Apr 2006 10:46 am

daffodil wrote:you need to make sure that the shock insert is tightened up very tight in the strut
Hi daffodil.

iirc I have tightened them pretty much, but i'll do a check to if that's the problem.

Thanks.

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Post by volvo300 » 02 Apr 2006 09:04 pm

Hi again daffodil and others.

I have tracked down the problem.
Like daffodil said, the shock insert has to be tightened very tight.
The insert on the right side was a little loose.
I was able to tightend the thing without taking the strut out :-)

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Thanks again for all the replies and the help / support.

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Post by jtbo » 02 Apr 2006 11:07 pm

Hey, those are knuts that I was not able to tighten properly as I had no good tool, also it took 3 hours to open one :(

They need to be tightened right to bottom, but my right side is not quite well tightened so it make awful klonk everytime I drive over sidewalk...
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