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Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 23 Jan 2009 03:51 pm

My car is '84 and has old style bearing, 52.116(Scantech number)(3294713 original)
But it is not possible to find it anymore...
Does anybody knows, if it is possible to change it with new style 52.117?(3411886 original)
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by trabitom99 » 23 Jan 2009 05:47 pm

Their still available from ScanTech as far as I can tell. Their German supplier lists them, as does this supplier in the UK ...

http://www.scantechparts.co.uk/acatalog ... 0_360.html

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 23 Jan 2009 06:41 pm

well..
52.115 is for 340 with b14 engine
52.117 is for 3xx after '86
both of them are available here, not from Scan only, but from SKF, NK, etc..
but I need 52.116-it is not even listed there..
or confirmation that it can be easily changed to 52.117
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by trabitom99 » 23 Jan 2009 07:22 pm

Ah sorry, I didn't know there was a difference in <85 340 and 360 rear bearings.

If I type the Volvo part no (3294713) in my Skandix CD (they buy stuff from Scantech mostly) I get:

Radlagersatz hinten 1000986
Volvo 300 (360) 3294713
Achsaufhängung 2 Stk.
Volvo 360 nur Baujahr 85
bis Fahrgestellnummer 120999
45,91 EUR

Might be worth contacting them:
http://www.skandix.com/

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 23 Jan 2009 08:25 pm

It could be nice site, but it doesn't offer any parts for 3xx:))
in their catalog you can select 2xx, 4xx, but not 3xx-it is disabled.
Original bearing is to expensive:(
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by Chris_C » 23 Jan 2009 10:37 pm

Early 300 rw bearings have separate oil seals as well as the bearing, the later style had the seals in the bearing

this
Image
and
Image

rather than
Image

in lates. as to compatibility, no idea, but the early ones should be easy enough to get hold of from a normal bearing shop, a good make such as Timkin or SKF would be fine if you can measure the old one.
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'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
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'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by trabitom99 » 23 Jan 2009 10:37 pm

nekto wrote:It could be nice site, but it doesn't offer any parts for 3xx:))
in their catalog you can select 2xx, 4xx, but not 3xx-it is disabled.
Yes, they don't list the 300 parts on their website, only on their CD. They sent me one free within a day or so of requesting it. Their website looks a bit primitive, but they're one of the major aftermarket Volvo parts dealers in Germany, the other one is "Wagner und Günther" but they sell nothing for the 300 AFAIK.

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343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 23 Jan 2009 10:52 pm

Let me clarify..
340 with B14 has 2 bearings and a seal ring: Image
360 and 340 with B19 before '86 has a single bearing: Image
and after '86 bearing from 4xx is used and it is going with a hub: Image

Firts type is not interesting for me.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by Chris_C » 23 Jan 2009 11:54 pm

Are you sure? If so I'm about to go and buy the wrong one! I thought the middle one was post 86, never seen reference to the last type! I'll have to actually look at the axle now :lol:
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
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'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 24 Jan 2009 10:17 am

Yes, I'm sure. This is according to my local Scantech dealer
Also it is mentioned it Scantech catalog.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by Chris_C » 24 Jan 2009 02:02 pm

I *think* scantech have there pictures mixed up. Vadis quotes part number 3411886 for my late 89 340, and a search for that part number shows me the same picture you show here

http://dead.hub.lv/Volvo&SAAB%20Detalu% ... ing-1.html

from a scantech catalog, but the picture I'm expecting from this scantech catalogue

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2889375/suspe ... ring-volvo

and also lists it for 4xx.

This separate company also shows the double width sealled bearing for all late cars with the same part number in reference.

http://www.propartssweden.com/filer/Pro ... _volvo.pdf

The picture in green books, Haynes, Russek and Vadis show the double width without flange too, so I'd be most likely to stick with that.

However, as you have an 84, I'd also be pretty sure that you must have the 2 separate bearings and oil seal currently, so really don't know if you can switch to the double width one :( Vadis if you select an 85 car (the oldest it has) amusing shows the diagram says "86- only"
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'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 24 Jan 2009 02:37 pm

I'm sure that I have only one wide bearing:)
Two narrow are for B14 engine only.
And last one is for car with chassis number CH.121000-
Vadis is a strange thing regarding 3xx...
Diagram is for 86-, but shows -86 wide bearing...
Also if you look at rear bearing of 440, it will be wide with flange. So scribd is not correct..
I think the only way to solve the problem-look at what you have. May be I'll lucky to see last type bearing tomorrow
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by Chris_C » 24 Jan 2009 06:19 pm

nekto wrote:I think the only way to solve the problem-look at what you have. May be I'll lucky to see last type bearing tomorrow
I think you are right! Let us know, I'll do the same when I do mine.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by nekto » 25 Jan 2009 03:38 pm

Now I' completely confused..
I saw 52.117 from Scan, and it looks exactly like this: Image
No hub, just bearing and a nut.
So I don't understand, what number shall I buy..
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Re: Rear wheel bearing

Post by Chris_C » 26 Jan 2009 05:43 pm

That is what everything apart from the info you've shown has said is on post 86 cars mate! All my info shows 340's and 360's pre 86 being double bearing... have you had it apart yet? That really will be the only test for certain.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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