Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
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Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Hi guys
I'm wondering what the differences are between a mk3 saloon and hatchback.
I'm interested in knowing whether the propshaft is the same length and whether the front bumper, lights and bonnet are the same?
Alex
I'm wondering what the differences are between a mk3 saloon and hatchback.
I'm interested in knowing whether the propshaft is the same length and whether the front bumper, lights and bonnet are the same?
Alex
Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
All those the same, as is the rear bumper. Just the brackets that are different.
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
I think its about an inch longer too, but this might just be the bumper.
Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Fakes rear bumper came of a saloon They are the same.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
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Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Some accessories are different: tow bar, rear bodykit bits, louvre, rear aerial ...
Cheers
Tom
Cheers
Tom
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343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
No I meant the body - I'm sure it pokes out an inch more than the hatchback? By this I mean the bootlip on a saloon would poke out more.Chris_C wrote:Fakes rear bumper came of a saloon They are the same.
Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
The Saloon body is a few inches longer (4.5cm to be exact), thats why the rear bumper brackets are longer (the rear leaf spring mounts + mounting holes for the brackets are in the same place as the hatch).
Even the rear doors are the same, differences are in the visible body parts behind the rear doors.
Even the rear doors are the same, differences are in the visible body parts behind the rear doors.
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
What I never understood was why Volvo gave the saloon a slightly smaller boot than the hatch. What's the point of making a saloon if it has a smaller boot than the 3/5dr variant? Beside the classic good looks of course
Tom
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360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
What do you mean smaller? Of course its smaller it doesn't have the height the hatchback has, hatchbacks are so much more practical. To equal the hatch back you'd have to have another 2ft of boot out the back of the car or make it into a van/estate.trabitom99 wrote:What I never understood was why Volvo gave the saloon a slightly smaller boot than the hatch. What's the point of making a saloon if it has a smaller boot than the 3/5dr variant? Beside the classic good looks of course
Tom
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1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
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1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
1980s saloons tended to have more boot space than the hatchback versions. Booted Novas, Belmonts, the VW Jetta (huuuuge boot), at a guess the Ford Orion too ... Seemed strange to me that Volvo would make one which was less practical than the hatch and smaller too ...
Tom
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360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
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343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
When they introduced the saloon I remember wondering why they had done it, I suppose they were wanting to make sales to the people who were used to other saloons and didn't like the hatchback style. It would have made sense to make an estate too, but I suppose the costs of putting into production the new rear design we not going to be made up for in sales?
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Your're right, in the 80s a hatch was still a novel, unusual thing for some buyers. It was considered "brave" at the time for Ford to launch the 85 on Granada / Scorpio in hatch-only guise, the Saab 9000 springs to mind too ...
The 300 estate didn't make it past the prototype stage unfortunately:
Tom
The 300 estate didn't make it past the prototype stage unfortunately:
Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988
Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
The main problem I'd imagine with an estate is it would compete with every other car Volvo were selling at the time. The small hatch was an area that they didn't have prior to the 300 (nor ever since really... the 400 just doesn't count )
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'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Saloons also appeal to those that like a fully secure area to keep things in that are not accessible from anywhere other than the bootlid. They also have the benefit of being quieter than hatchbacks with less road and wind noise.
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Re: Differences between a Mk3 saloon and hatchback?
Thanks for the replies.
I now have a rather rusty saloon and a 1.7 engine sitting on my garage floor... need to start a thread
I now have a rather rusty saloon and a 1.7 engine sitting on my garage floor... need to start a thread