340/343 layout?

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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by volvosneverdie » 05 Oct 2011 01:26 pm

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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 05 Oct 2011 01:29 pm

It's bad I know what both of those episodes are. :lol:

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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by sven360 » 05 Oct 2011 04:55 pm

Fill the tubing with sand prior to bending.
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by Attack2001 » 05 Oct 2011 07:12 pm

Yup thats it exactly it :)

We use the guide thats closest to the diameter but i dont think we had one were it sat snug. Before we bent it. we stood the tube on its end with the end on the floor blanked off. We welded a piece of metal on the bottom, then, up the top dropped sand down the tube, and using a custom made compacter ( a metal disk on the end of piece of rod) would put the compactor down the tube, and hit it with a hammer to compact the sand as much as we could. This way, when we bent the tube the sand would stop the walls from collapsing. The most important bit is the compacting the sand. When we did the main hoop, we put sand in the tube but couldnt compact it. Thats probably why one end flattened slightly, but from then on we used that 'tool' :lol: to compact the sand a lot better, and all the bends from then on came out perfectly :)
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 05 Oct 2011 11:03 pm

Cheers mate. Might grab a length of CDS and give it a go.

Tried similar with exhaust tubing, but I assume it was down to the thin walls and the join why that was crushing.
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by Attack2001 » 05 Oct 2011 11:13 pm

All the stuff we've bent has been Clubman 500, which is a derivative of T45. We tried to bend a tiny tube of T45 we've got for supporting the fibreglass panels, its about 10-15mm ID with a 2/3mm wall thickness. It wasnt having none of it. not event he hulk could have bent that tube! haha its tough stuff. If your using ordinary CDS, pack it with loadsssssss of sand, and all should be fine :) Dont forget when measuring up, you need to add say 10m on the end as you will need to chop of the end/plate thats welded on to keep the sand in :) Thomas...........
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 05 Oct 2011 11:23 pm

You mean 10mm surely! :P :lol:

Sound advice though bud. Just dunno how much the tubing is these days (last priced some a couple years back) and what kind I would need.

Gonna measure the motor though and see what it's gonna cost me. :lol:

I reckon if I make my own I will do what you did and have the main hoop bent properly though! Then some sexy ass gusset plates to tie it to the pillars. :D 8)
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by Attack2001 » 06 Oct 2011 12:00 am

I could supply you with a main hoop from work and then you could go from there? And by gussets, you mean these beautys? :P

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Took us ages to do that, the proper flaring tool would have been nice too lol
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 06 Oct 2011 12:06 am

Supply away! How much how much? 8) :lol:

Yeah, I think they're called gussets? Then again, so are the triangular plates for tying to strut towers etc? By flaring tool do you mean the one that makes the strengthened circular holes? They look great - and do a good job!
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by Attack2001 » 06 Oct 2011 12:34 am

I'll get the price for one tomorrow and post it up :) We can also supply full cages with A pillar bars and door bars with x's in the back, down to half cages with door bars for 'streeto' 8)

And yeh the flaring tool is a must! We came up with a sneaky way to do it :wink: but if it went wrong we had to make another plate lol
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 06 Oct 2011 12:45 am

Attack2001 wrote:I'll get the price for one tomorrow and post it up :) We can also supply full cages with A pillar bars and door bars with x's in the back, down to half cages with door bars for 'streeto' 8)

And yeh the flaring tool is a must! We came up with a sneaky way to do it :wink: but if it went wrong we had to make another plate lol
Sounds good matey. 340pw

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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by volvosneverdie » 06 Oct 2011 07:07 am

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Where are you based?
Im gonna guess Rochester. In Kent.

Looks awesome mind.
I dont think Ive actually seen a caged 300 IRL.

Now that everyones doing JDM arches and booostu, you need summat to call your own Liam. :lol:
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 06 Oct 2011 03:09 pm

volvosneverdie wrote:
L14MNP wrote:
Where are you based?
Im gonna guess Rochester. In Kent.

Looks awesome mind.
I dont think Ive actually seen a caged 300 IRL.

Now that everyones doing JDM arches and booostu, you need summat to call your own Liam. :lol:
I swear he didn't have a location in his profile yesterday! :P

Yeah man, bitches jackin all my plans eh! :lol: I still have a couple more stand out additions though. :roll: :D
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by Attack2001 » 06 Oct 2011 05:16 pm

Ok, so i just got this back from Finess in Sweden:
hi .. 1:06 p-cage (k app model on the website www.finess.se) in kit costs 3850: -/sek + shipping 1200: -/sek
I cant make any sense of it, but im guessing its this cage: http://www.finess.se/Undersidor/Produkt ... ginal.html
Converted the prices are: 3852 Swedish Krona = £365 and the shipping 1200 = £113 so all in thats £478 which isnt bad.


haha yeah as soon as you mentioned it i changed it :wink: lol Im in rochester, work, you've probably heard of. F1 moto, half a mile up the road from Brands Hatch, west kingsdown kent. We can supply you a main hoop for £250+postage, bent on one of those mahoosive proper machines that do it nicely :D Then all you need to do it make the back stays diagonals and door bars which is easy :) Thomas........
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Re: 340/343 layout?

Post by L14MNP » 07 Oct 2011 12:02 am

^ Nice work on price findin bud. I may just go for that one and add a bit more bracing. Is a decent price, well for a ready welded bolt in it would be. The door bars are crap/pointless mind! Depends how much the tubing is gonna cost me as to whether it is worthwhile. Nice to see we have a couple options though.

I have heard of F1 Moto yeah, but only through DW I think. The guy, Nev built that DET engined Volvo 360 didn't he? Will bear you in mind. Cheers!
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