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rust-ography

Post by bogbasic » 22 Aug 2013 03:30 pm

Just wondering if this type of rust under the front wings is reparable...

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... it doesn't look too bad really but it goes through to the inner wing, under the bonnet and box section, and, just for fun, through the bulkhead, too.

That car from Hull has had a hard-time. Just hoping the welder is not going to say 'bin it'.
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
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1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
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Re: rust-ography

Post by Ride_on » 22 Aug 2013 11:31 pm

Everything is repairable, but you will probably find it is alot worse than it looks now. You need to uncover to good metal, and sometimes that can be weak if the other side is rusted. You can use a heat gun to soften the underseal, lift and edge and peel off large sections (try not to breath in the smoke).

To be honest it looks pretty bad and I have gone to great lengths to repair mine for the love of it, yours is alot worse. I would be very surpised if the car is not rusted through in many other spots. I would be more worried about its safety than cheaply repairing it.

Have you been over the underneath with a screwdriver and tried to poke holes in it? Check the sills, rear sping mounts, rear cross box section, front chassis leg seams near the radius arm mounts.
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Post by classicswede » 22 Aug 2013 11:31 pm

I've repaired up ones just as bad. Time consuming but is there anywhere else that is bad?
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Re: rust-ography

Post by Hell Driver » 22 Aug 2013 11:40 pm

My first 300 (77 mk1) was as bad as that in 1995. I had it done.

Yes, it is repairable, at a cost of either time and/or money.

It will rust again but should give you another 8 years or so of normal winter use...mine did.
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Post by bogbasic » 23 Aug 2013 12:02 am

Hello again, I have been over the underside pretty thoroughly and those are about the worst bits. Glad to hear there's hope!
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
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Re: rust-ography

Post by Chris_C » 25 Aug 2013 08:43 am

Looks to be the same place I had trouble with Fake, but more advanced. There are some wing off pictures to give you an idea in my project thread
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Post by bogbasic » 26 Aug 2013 11:56 pm

Cheers for that.

How's about this for some wheel arch wust?

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More wickedness just waiting for a welder. I should have a repair panel or two somewhere.
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
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Re: rust-ography

Post by CBA » 06 Sep 2013 02:47 am

:? quite a bad one that arch. That's medieval!!

The suspension underside, 'bog... that's not too bad, it's just getting a good job done on it by a good welder for a good price. That said, as always - Wire brush on drill, heatgun, whatever - remove all paint and rust, then see.

if you can find the repair pieces for it, it might be an almost-economical repair. I would think the pieces to repair the strut cups/assoc. bits would be some of the few body parts that are still obtainable. fingers crossed.

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Re: rust-ography

Post by CBA » 15 Oct 2013 07:50 am

That looks like a *nice* welding job on bogs, it's not too much but NEEDS doing... I wouldn't want to weld anything smaller, feel I'm hurting the car unnecessarily.

That arch is medieval, totally agree. My back arches aren't anything near as bad.


Hey, bog - The MOT station you use - he passed that rust yeah, I want to take it to him in april for another. ????

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Re: rust-ography

Post by CBA » 15 Oct 2013 07:53 am

JESUS sm36 CHRIST MAN!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Bad arch, Naughty arch . That volvo's not been wasted on fuddy duddies... Has it ever experienced traction :lol: It's sm36 sandblasted itself.

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Re: rust-ography

Post by Chris_C » 15 Oct 2013 08:58 am

CBA wrote:I wouldn't want to weld anything smaller, feel I'm hurting the car unnecessarily.
That sounds like cruelty to cars, making the poor thing suffer and get worse.
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'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: rust-ography

Post by bogbasic » 15 Oct 2013 08:12 pm

Man, the rust goes all round - only about a quarter of it has fallen off.... just so happens that I collected a few repair panels for wheel arches a few years ago so I'm thinking its do-able with a sympathetic / creative welding type of person. I don't know who passed it to be honest because it came from Hull on the back of Dai's trailer so who MOT'd it there is mystery to me.... I may have the old cert but there wasn't loads of paperwork with it..... come to think of it the seller was going to try and MOT it before handing it over but for once I may have had some correct foresight and said don't bother!! The interior is pretty good and complete!! Anyhow, where there's a will, there's a way... and it isn't metallic paint so I'm hoping that I'll get quite a good colour match with aerosols, famous last....
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
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Re: rust-ography

Post by CBA » 26 Oct 2013 09:01 pm

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I dont want to go in the volvo, I feel much better... I'm Hapeeeee I'm Hapeeee!!!

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Re: rust-ography

Post by bogbasic » 23 Dec 2013 05:42 pm

How's about a nice big cup of that's a bit more like it...

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... as you can see, back from the brink (and the welder). The days are getting longer now - spring it on...
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
More info here!

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Re: rust-ography

Post by MCHUDD » 23 Dec 2013 07:43 pm

H mate.
I remember having a Datsun Sunny Coupe once. It was so rusty that
every time you went over a bump in the road, another
bit fell off the car :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers Mark.
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