2.0i turbo

Post by **Fuse** » 31 Aug 2005 06:05 pm

5lab wrote:theres no 2 litre turbo 700s. they're all 2.3s.. should still go in without too much trouble - the 940 turbo enigne isnt up to much umph - its just a lpt to give a little more grunt. t6 is where its at

Yes there is.. B200ET. Most 740 turbos are 2 litre in here because of the harder taxing for cars with over 2 litre engines at the 80's. And it doesn't have mechanical injection. B200ET has Motronic. About B200FT I'm not sure which injection system does it have because we didn't get those. All 940 turbos were 2.3l in here.

B200ET has 160hp and FT 155hp.

If I would have the cash I would go to 16V 2.5l Penta with SPM bottom end and headwork done by some very good shop.

Or if I would have very much cash I would go to 2.8l EVO engine.

Post by **RandomHero** » 31 Aug 2005 08:42 pm

All the B200 and B230 engines have electronic injection yes. I meant the B21, the older version from the early 200-series. The B200FT is the one with the lambda sond.

I looked up a list with cars. And the 940's came with 135, 155 and 165 HP. Which versions are this? The 135 HP is the LPT is guess.. are the others the HPT and FPT?

Post by **bodejodel** » 31 Aug 2005 09:18 pm

SoLaMaNdA wrote:How pokey would a non turbo 2.3i with a 16v head be? Maybe a good improvement but without turbo issues and lots of low end power.

A 16V engine wil require a custom bonnet because the 16v head won't fit under a stock one.
I'm planning a B230FT conversion in the near future because I now drive a company PUG. I can afford to have the 360 off the road for a couple of months...
I'll keep you all updated on the progress...

Post by **Ron_alD** » 31 Aug 2005 11:00 pm

did some research, the dude with the 2.0 ltr turbo has an imported 360 from italy. so need to steel his car and engine

just kiddin'
I think I'll just fit in a B230FT, nice engine, nice sound. and a bit more HP

I'm going to fly my 360 around Holland

greetings

Ronald

Post by **SoLaMaNdA** » 01 Sep 2005 09:53 am

How much power can be expected from a 8v 2.3l knicked from an estate? As much as I like the idea of a turbo, it would loose the low down power I love

Post by **SteveP** » 01 Sep 2005 09:57 am

I was thinking a nice engine swap in a GLS would be a B230K with twin carbs... 160bhp? I think the B230k is around 130bhp-ish stock. But as its carb it should be VERY simple to fit into a 300.

Post by **classicswede** » 01 Sep 2005 09:20 pm

The other problem with the 16valve is you need a complete engine as the head is expensive to fit on to a std bottom end. There is a lot involved. My dad has been looking at it for his 240. We are now going to fit the complete engine and I shall fab up some mounting brackets.

Dai

Post by **V6 Man** » 02 Sep 2005 09:06 pm

Nah, the 16v head will fit fine on the standard (stronger) bottom end - you just need new tensioner pulleys from VW.

Do a search for 16v on turbobricks.com and you'll find all the info you need.

Post by **foggyjames** » 02 Sep 2005 11:36 pm

Oooh dear folks...so much misinformation!

A few points...
B200/230s DID come with mechanical injection (and electronic...)
Both are available turbo and NA
Both are available 8v and 16v, although there was never a 2.3 16v turbo (all other combinations exist)
The 16v head WILL fit in the engine bay of a 300
Fitting the 16v head to an 8v block is a bit of a PITA, but probably worth it, especially where further modifications will take place.

If I get round to doing a 'sane' 360 Turbo project, it will feature either a B230FT, or B200FT, but with the 'low power features' (cat, cam, and head on the B230) swapped for the ET versions. I'm using the FT to keep LH-Jetronic 2.4 for control...far superior to Motronic. The B200 with a hot cam seems to be a good idea, as the head suits the B200 better than the B230, and a revvy B200 will produce less torque than a lower revving B230 for the same peak bhp figure...torque = drivetrain death.

cheers

James

Post by **Japper** » 28 Oct 2005 07:45 pm

2.0 turbo in a 360.. that must just be a ticket to suicide

Website · Post by **antiekeradio** » 28 Oct 2005 08:02 pm

have been driven around for a bit in a 740 with B204GT last week;

that is AWESOME!!

the 740 is a quick car with this engine. 200 BHP... and a lot of grunt at lower revs as well!!

would be a real axel/box breaker if you'd install that in a 300.

the 740 has a LSD to cope with the power.

Greetings, Wouter

Post by **Fuse** » 31 Oct 2005 11:18 am

Japper wrote:2.0 turbo in a 360.. that must just be a ticket to suicide

No it's not.

Actually without IC it's not that much.. I need an IC and more boost.

This one Finnish guy got his 340DL running with Megasquirted 2.5l 16V Penta. (B230 block, penta crank and 532 16V Penta head) Drivetrain is from 360. I posted this already in to Tbricks but I'll post it in here too. There are some pics:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/fredrikr/Volvo%20340DL/b254.html

It is currently NA but he says that when he gets everything in order and running good in NA he is going to turbo it later.

What comes to engine mounts with turbo, they don't need modification if you place your turbo right or make a new exhaust manifold. I have 80's style 90-degree bent bolted on to the stock manifold but it will do with my current power needs..

Though I have seen two 360 Turbos which had stock manifold and stock T3 and no adapters or modified engine mounts so I guess if you place the turbo right it will fit without any mods. Though if you are a good welder you can make your own engine mounts which will suffice.

For example here are some pics of a self made engine mount of a 240 Turbo in which the engine is placed vertically.

http://www.multi.fi/~andrnorr/temp/motfast.jpg
http://www.multi.fi/~andrnorr/temp/motfast2.jpg

That 240 btw is a crazy car.. It ran 11,93 with trap speed of 193km/h in quarter mile in it's first race and it is street legal. Though he sold the engine already and is aiming for more power with a 16v setup.

Old engine looked like that: http://www.multi.fi/~andrnorr/temp/1.jpg
There are some more pics in this topic, not a 360 though but someone might find these interesting

: http://www.volvolandia.com/landia/index ... 35;start=0

Post by **Japper** » 31 Oct 2005 11:23 am

Fuse, I heard this story about a finnish dealer that fitted turbo's on 360's. Do you know anything about that? What kind of turbo was fitted, and how much bhp does it pump out?

Post by **Fuse** » 31 Oct 2005 11:41 am

Yeah our GL's turbo was fitted at dealer. It was a R-Sport turbo kit meant for 240 which were installed. They put some of them in 300-series also.

http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/karu244/r-sport ... sport.html

Text in finnish though but main parts used also in 360 were Garret T3 Turbo, 240 exhaust manifold and a fuel pump which will work under boost. Carb in our GL is Weber 32DAT instead of Strömberg in 240 so some modification were made. Though I have seen one 360 Turbo with Strömberg so there are some differencies what parts were used. But mainly 360 turbos built by dealer were based on 240 R-Sport kit.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/GL/older/kone.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... /kone2.jpg

There are two pics of GL's engine bay.

Edit: And estimated power output was ~140hp for that package without intercooler. Of course it depends on boost, cams etc... but that was the estimated value when running stock boost.

Post by **foggyjames** » 31 Oct 2005 12:49 pm

I've heard that mounting an 8v engine upright causes the oil pockets in the head to not stay filled properly, potentially causing under-oiling of the valvetrain. I hope the same isn't true of the 16v head, as they look SO much better upright.

cheers

James