Engine from 760, is it posible?

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Engine from 760, is it posible?

Post by unicata » 12 Feb 2007 03:43 pm

I think of changing the engine wit some 2.3 16V or turbo, so i found a 760 2.3 turbo(177hp - i think) but i'm not sure will it fit.
I know that 2.3l from 740 will fit but this is with automatic gearbox and the engine is B23ET, so i'm wondering will if fit like the B 230?
is it easy to change the engines?
I know there is topic about engine changing but i don't remember if there were word of B23ET.
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Post by classicswede » 12 Feb 2007 10:14 pm

The engine will fit in.

You could have some trouble with clearance between the engine mount and turbo.

If the turbo engine is from an auto you will need to change the flywheel and fit the bearing into the crank.

No major problems at all - the block is the same
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Post by unicata » 13 Feb 2007 01:56 pm

what is the flywheel, i mean from which engines will it fit?
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Post by haak » 14 Feb 2007 11:00 am

unicata wrote:what is the flywheel, i mean from which engines will it fit?
I plan to use the flywheel from the 760, need it because of the ignition.

With the stock exhaust manifolod the turbo will take in the engine mount(sorry bad english :lol: ). You can use a 940 exhaustmanifold, and it got better flow too. Another option is welding yourself a adapter between manifold and turbo who get the turbo a little bit up from the engine mount. Or you can of course weld yourself a new exhausmanifold.

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Post by unicata » 14 Feb 2007 11:33 am

ok, i'll use another flywheel but is it matter from what engine (B200 B230 B20 B23 )
ine more thing do i need to dnange the gear box? my friend told me that my gear box won't handle the pesure of this engine, is it true? do i need to change the gear box
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Post by Tourinki » 14 Feb 2007 05:35 pm

unicata wrote:ine more thing do i need to dnange the gear box? my friend told me that my gear box won't handle the pesure of this engine, is it true? do i need to change the gear box
Changing gearbox is priority number 1 when torque is over 400nm then is approximately 1 accleration and you need a new gearbox and diff.
I would say that if you keep power around 200 bhp then you can drive it quite safely. but i am not an expert so if someone has better knowledge about this matter can tell what happens and when happens

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some pictures of your beauty, can we see please?

Post by sorin_ms66 » 14 Feb 2007 05:44 pm

Hello from north of Danube,

I am really curious to see some pictures of your car, powered by that beast engine having 177 HP. When do you think the job will be done? I wish you good luck with the engine change.


unicata wrote:ok, i'll use another flywheel but is it matter from what engine (B200 B230 B20 B23 )
ine more thing do i need to dnange the gear box? my friend told me that my gear box won't handle the pesure of this engine, is it true? do i need to change the gear box
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Post by unicata » 14 Feb 2007 08:08 pm

im not doing it now, yet.
I just want to know and if it is not very dificult and expensive i'll do it
i thoght if it's need just to change the engine it's easy but buying a differential and gearbox, thats too much for me. Can i change just the engine and nothing more?
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Post by sorin_ms66 » 15 Feb 2007 02:01 pm

As long as I know, it is not possible to change the original engine with a such powerfull one. I think it will be necessary many other modifications, in order to be sure the car will function as it should be. In my opinion, if you would like to have more power than a B14 or B17 engine gives, you shall choose a B19 or B20 engine. No other engine more powerfull that these ones.
I wish you good luck!
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Post by unicata » 15 Feb 2007 05:45 pm

i'm using B200E now, but i want more lets say 140-150hp which i can take from B234F(16v) or from B230FT(turbo) and as long as i know these engines i can change not doing anything else, am i right?
i just want to know can i mount engine with 14-150hp but not changing anything else? and if i can what engine i can use?
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Post by Tourinki » 15 Feb 2007 06:13 pm

unicata wrote:i'm using B200E now, but i want more lets say 140-150hp which i can take from B234F(16v) or from B230FT(turbo) and as long as i know these engines i can change not doing anything else, am i right?
i just want to know can i mount engine with 14-150hp but not changing anything else? and if i can what engine i can use?
All four cylinder B2xx and B19,B23,B21 engines have externally similar blocks. Depending of what car from is your motor. You'll have change oil pump and oil sump. Also engine management is one thing what you have to change. And probably clucth and flywheel. You'll have to modify that right side engine mount only if you are going to put a turbocharged engine under the hood.

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