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240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 07:59 pm
by chrisryan
basically i dont know if im being ambitious or not, would this fit my 360 glt?!!?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eaton-g8 ... ccessories

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 08:05 pm
by magnumpi
I want to say no as everyone else would have been doing it for years, but i'm sure someone will be along with confirmation of this soon enough :)

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 09:17 pm
by Speedy88
I don't think it does but that doesn't stop you trying to install a 240 gearbox and drivetrain :D

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 09:58 pm
by magnumpi
Speedy88 wrote:I don't think it does but that doesn't stop you trying to install a 240 gearbox and drivetrain :D
Isn't the 240 box the same, just mounted like a conventional gearbox rather than hanging out the back end :lol: ?

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 10:03 pm
by Speedy88
Dunno about the same but it would bolt to the back of a 360 engine yes :wink:

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 08 Nov 2010 10:29 pm
by volvodspec
since when are they RWD cars with the diff mounted up front ;)

that 240 LSD diff is mounted in the rear axle, NOT in the gearbox.

i've also heard storys that a 240 LSD can be converted for 300 fitment but never saw pics/proof that it worked or how to do it... i'd say weld it if you want full difflock :D

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 09 Nov 2010 12:08 pm
by Chris_C
Fuse has posted pics of a 240 diff in a 300 casing, the crown wheel to inner bolts had to be lathed and the casing touched on a mill, pretty sure it was a dana whotsit from a 200 at least ;)

Also worth noting thats a locker, not a slipper

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 09 Nov 2010 05:40 pm
by Fuse
Here are the pics which Chris_C mentioned

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So it's not a direct fit by any means. If I remember correctly, "Janitor" had that setup in his rally car.

Here's also a modified alu-diff casing of a 200-series with axle tubes removed etc...
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It was used in one Finnish Group-F rally car. Gearbox was also at the back axle but it wasn't stock either.

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 10 Nov 2010 05:44 pm
by j-ski
there are sevral types of gearboxes in the 200 series non off them are enny better then the m45r an m47r, their all crap.
In my soon to be drift car im using a front mounted getrag trannie from a bmw 525 and the back axel off a 240, cheep, strong and easey to do.

ive both seen and herd of people using Bmw e30 or e36 diffs in their 360`s. with minor customisation. their alsow cheep and plentyfull.
u can alsow mod a complet backaxel from a 940 or 960 with multilink, then u gett lsd and mutch stronger drive shafts? (between diff and rim) pluss u can use the discbrakes.

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 16 Nov 2010 05:47 pm
by Speedy88
Been thinking about this more and more lately. Lockers are notoriously shit and unpredictable though. I wonder if there are any other slipper options, other than fabricating my own?

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 16 Nov 2010 07:45 pm
by sven360
Gripper is the man to talk to.

Get the cheque book at the ready. :lol:

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 17 Nov 2010 12:27 pm
by Fuse
j-ski wrote:there are sevral types of gearboxes in the 200 series non off them are enny better then the m45r an m47r, their all crap.
In my soon to be drift car im using a front mounted getrag trannie from a bmw 525 and the back axel off a 240, cheep, strong and easey to do.
Actually M50 and M51 gearboxes used in ~1975-1976 Volvo 264 are Getrag made 265/262-family boxes which will hold +500hp (basically same boxes as Getrag 262 and 262cr used in BMWs, but Volvo ones also have a speedometer output which BMW boxes don't have).

It's a same box which Volvo used in Group-A cars, though ones which came in 264 have a PRV V6 bellhousing so it'll require an adapter plate to fit the redblock bellhousing. Ultra rare GrpA boxes had the redblock bellhousing.

M50 and M51 aren't too common though. BMW 262/262cr swap is more common.

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 19 Nov 2010 09:09 pm
by SteveP
Speedy88 wrote:Lockers are notoriously shit and unpredictable though.
Really?? I found the locker in my Volvo 940 Wentworth and the Torsen LSD in my Mx5 way, way more predictable than an open diff in both the 300's and an E36 3 series

Re: 240 lsd? will it fit a 360?!

Posted: 20 Nov 2010 01:11 am
by Speedy88
Perhaps if I let myself get used to one they would be good. The only time I've tried to use one it let go on me mid-corner because I lifted off the throttle a bit. I was lucky not to bin my friend's car :(

It's better than an open diff in some ways but at least I know what an open diff will do and how much I can push it. Again that might just be because I'm used to one. LSD I've found to be a lot more predictable and does what my brain wants it to do.