Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

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kelvingenders
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Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 08:26 am

Hi all, just having some engine running issues with my 360 GLT B200E engine

When I drive up a road in 3rd or 4th, the car is tending to max out at 200-2500 rpm, with no power. It's feels as thought it is surging. For example, the car will not go over 70KMH unless going down a hill.

Could this be cause by the MAF sensor? or a faulty fuel pump. or any other

The other day while going up a hill I had to drop back into 1st, the car spluttered and nearly stalled, tick over when to 600rpm, then revs picked up again and it got me home.

Anyone got any clues what's is causing this problems

Logan360
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by Logan360 » 15 Jul 2013 08:47 am

When was the fuel filter changed? Also spark plugs?
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92 960S, Royal
01 Subaru Lancaster 6
96 Volvo 854R

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850lpt -AU Falcon
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kelvingenders
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 08:50 am

Engine bay one - 2 years ago, only done 2500 km. Fuel tank one - same time. Spark plugs - same time

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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by Logan360 » 15 Jul 2013 10:57 am

What about cleaning/replacing distributor rotor/cap?
Own:
86 360GLT
97 S90
92 960S, Royal
01 Subaru Lancaster 6
96 Volvo 854R

Owned
E90 320 M-sport wagon
S60T -Mazda Familia
850lpt -AU Falcon
855T5 -91, 95, 97 960
940TIC -Mitsi GTO TT
16x 360-Toyota corolla
Toyota corona-R32 Skyline
V70R -V70T5

kelvingenders
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 11:14 am

Brand new ish...I rebuilt the old beast about two years ago. I'm going to change all cheap parts, fuel filters first

Logan360
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by Logan360 » 15 Jul 2013 11:28 am

I've got a spare afm or two if you need one. Have you run injector cleaner through? Maybe its just blocked or dirty injector's
Own:
86 360GLT
97 S90
92 960S, Royal
01 Subaru Lancaster 6
96 Volvo 854R

Owned
E90 320 M-sport wagon
S60T -Mazda Familia
850lpt -AU Falcon
855T5 -91, 95, 97 960
940TIC -Mitsi GTO TT
16x 360-Toyota corolla
Toyota corona-R32 Skyline
V70R -V70T5

kelvingenders
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 11:29 am

Replaced injectors - all new....thinking it my be crap fuel....

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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 11:31 am

Hi Logan, got two spare MAF units, think they are all in similar condition.....hope it's not my ECU playing up. I'll let you know the results

Ride_on
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by Ride_on » 15 Jul 2013 11:52 am

Ignition breakdown will be fairly harsh, engine will feel really rough when its happening.

Sounds more like lack of fuel, I'd go for the AFM, but you might want to check fuel rail pressure (regulator and pump), and of course post measurement air leaks, breathers etc.

You could try rigging up an external switch for the cold start injector, that will give you more fuel (as an experiment).
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

kelvingenders
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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 15 Jul 2013 12:12 pm

Putting a new fuel pump in this weekend....

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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 22 Jul 2013 12:27 pm

Turned out the external fuel filter was completely blocked..... a new ryco z153k filter...beast is running fine again

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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by Ride_on » 24 Jul 2013 02:29 am

Is this the pre-pump filter, apparently more of a moisture trap or resevoir than a filter, but I'm not entirely sure. If you fit a normal filter it will cause problems for the pump, especially at lower tank levels.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: Engine running issues - cut out up a hill - problems!!!!

Post by kelvingenders » 24 Jul 2013 12:21 pm

Yep, pre pump, it's a cheap paper filter and is really there to trap crap, but allows lots to fuel to flow.

I'm thinking of draining the tank and seeing what other crap comes from this area. Will update soon :360:

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