What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

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What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by joepgerwig » 03 Sep 2015 02:22 pm

Hi guys.

Just wondering i you could help me sorting out which engine i have got?
Want to order a new clutch but the guy tells me it is only for not b172 versions.

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by Ride_on » 03 Sep 2015 07:01 pm

Does make much sense, how can only be not for a particular model? That means it fits all cars but one!

AFAIK there is only one type of 1.7 340 engine, the B172K.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by Joris » 06 Sep 2015 09:50 pm

Ride_on wrote:Does make much sense, how can only be not for a particular model? That means it fits all cars but one!

AFAIK there is only one type of 1.7 340 engine, the B172K.
No.

Two types, old and new. 124 and 125 tooth timing belt. If you cab spot the difference on the outside I don't know!

But I would think the clutch should be the same.

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Post by bogbasic » 07 Sep 2015 12:37 pm

And you can even run the 125 with a 124 tooth belt ;-=

Well, for not too long, anyway ;-=
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
More info here!

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by Ride_on » 07 Sep 2015 10:37 pm

Pfth, another reason to hate 1.7s.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by Chris_C » 08 Sep 2015 12:51 pm

You need a clutch kit for a B172. The difference will be in the amount of splines on the pressure plate, the "non B172" kits are effectively 400 series friction plates matched up to 300 series pressure plates and release bearings. They are a cock up that someone in some aftermarket clutch company made once and has forever perpetuated, they fit no 1.7 petrol 300.
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by joepgerwig » 09 Sep 2015 07:28 am

Thanks guys! just ordered a kit for a B172 1.7

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by andrew » 17 Dec 2015 10:20 pm

Hi guys,

i'm on the final stage of assembling my engine and need an advice.
So i bought spare volvo 1.7 engine from 4xx. cam belt was 125 teeth.
Then i had to fit this engine with my old crankshaft and head with camshaft from earlier volvo 340 1.7 which had 124 teeth.

when i tried to fit new 124 belt and it didn't fit, it was too tight. (i didn't remember at that time that it was 124 teeth belt, thought it 125)
Idler and tensioner remained from 4xx (125 teeth).

What are my next steps - fit idler and tensioner from 340 to the 4xx block or go buy 125 teeth belt?
I checked tooth count of the gear pulleys and its identical for both engines - 20/40, also diameters of idler and tensioner pulleys are the same.

what dictates different tooth count when all the pulleys have same parameters - is it only brackets for the pulleys which have a little more offset for 125?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by andrew » 17 Dec 2015 10:43 pm

i checked the pictures and brackets for the pulleys differ massively between the versions. not sure i can interchange them. So i guess 125 teeth belt is my option?

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by bogbasic » 17 Dec 2015 11:53 pm

Hello, yes, the 125 tooth belt is the answer, having had the same problem 18 months ago....

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15653&hilit=cam+belt+125+tooth
1988 340 1.4 GL, 218k, 5 door (Grey Bess). Gone to CBA.
1991 340 1.7 GL, 64k, 5 door, petrol blue (Deep Blue).
1988 360 2.0 GLE, 140k, 5 door, ocean blue metallic (Blue Bess).
1989 340 1.7 GL, 108k, 3 door (Red Ness).
More info here!

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Re: What engine do i have ( 1.7 DL 1987 )

Post by andrew » 18 Dec 2015 07:35 pm

i seem to fit all 340 pulleys to the engine and the 124 teeth belt fit alright. now need to put engine back into the car and check.

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