Breaking 2x340s

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by macplaxton » 05 Jun 2012 06:10 pm

PAS = Power Assisted Steering. (much like ABS/TCS/LSD and all them other acronyms)

My understanding so far (which is limited to RHD cars and may be wrong) is that:

a) some 360s with Volvo B19/B200 (Volvo Redblock) power units had PAS fitted. So there would be no issues fitting PAS to a car with that sort of engine.
b) Every so often a B14 Volvo (aka Renault Cleon / C-Type) powered 340 turns up that has had an aftermarket conversion usually using the same PAS rack as the 360.
c) The B17/D16 Volvo engine (aka Renault Fonte / F-Type F1N,F2N,F3N) has issues with the sump/block getting in the way of things.

Anyone care to add any comments on the above? (or indeed to if the 1.7 issue exists for LHD cars?)

Whilst it hydraulic PAS might be out of the question, it may be possible to fit something else like electric PAS, but either way it's not looking like a bolt-on venture.

In practice and considering all the above, it probably better to man-up and keep it non-PAS. :lol: It not heavy if nothing is fooked and if you still find it's heavy then I'd suggest there's a lot of dry steering is going on. :wink:
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Benfraser » 05 Jun 2012 06:31 pm

hmmm thanks for the info... Might look into it a bit more see whats possible. Not that fussed about it to be honest :/

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Chris_C » 05 Jun 2012 08:37 pm

MP is correct, 1.4's can be converted using 360 stuff (and associated bracketry for whatever pump is chosen)

Adam (340GLT) tried fitting a 360 PAS rack to a 1.7 sumped car and it fouled. However, from memory it was in a valver with a standard set of rear engine mounts, I'd be *very* interested to see whether it fitted on a car with an uprated mounted and correctly aligned 1.7/valver etc since the rear end droop came to light.
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Speedy88 » 05 Jun 2012 09:37 pm

If that's true Chris i'd still be wary of running it as it will *just* clear. With engine movement you'll still be knocking against it... I wouldn't feel comfortable running it anyway.

Raised engine mounts on the other hand...
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by macplaxton » 05 Jun 2012 09:56 pm

So the conclusion is that even if it will go in, it would only clear the sump by a bawhair?

So Adam, is it actually the sump that would require cutting and shutting, or is it more serious in that the bottom of the block would be involved?
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by ovlovjim » 12 Jun 2012 01:33 pm

Have you got a prop shaft by any chance

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Ride_on » 12 Jun 2012 01:49 pm

delrio wrote:
Ride_on wrote:Any chance of the rubber seal for the steering column into the bulkhead? AFAIK its a standard part on all 300, but not sure.
The rubber around the steering column or the rubber bit where it goes through the bulkhead?
Erm, don't know, though it was all one piece. There is no cover around the damper on the 360 if thats what you mean.
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Hell Driver » 16 Jun 2012 10:23 pm

delrio wrote:
volvomania wrote:Before I start sending you a wish list......were you planning on coming to the BKV on 16 & 17 June nr Ollerton?

I am actually after the rubber strut mounting tops (the worse they are the better) and perhaps some other bits as well.
I was playing with the idea of going! Pm me your wish list and I'll see what I can do!
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Evoman » 17 Jun 2012 09:22 pm

Do you have two central locking motors please?
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Dan » 21 Jun 2012 01:41 pm

would you happen to have an input shaft?
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by delrio » 21 Jun 2012 02:50 pm

Dan wrote:would you happen to have an input shaft?
What engine size?

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by Dan » 21 Jun 2012 07:30 pm

1.4
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a weekend when no nuts and bolts are added to my toolbox
no pushing a car home in the rain

one day perhaps my dream will come true

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by olliehood » 13 Aug 2012 02:07 am

I am doing clio swap into my 1.4 so need

1.7 sump
1.7 bellhousing
1.7 front engine mounts (Rhs 3 bolt bracket to block - Lhs 3 bolt bracket to sump)
1.7 alternator mounts
1.7 "T" piece from behind waterpump
1.7 water pipes

Can you give me a price shipped to eh33 1el..

cheers

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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by valman » 22 Aug 2012 08:15 am

do you have a windscreen by any chance?
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Re: Breaking 2x340s

Post by delrio » 03 Sep 2012 05:55 pm

valman wrote:do you have a windscreen by any chance?
No sorry I havnt

Shell has now gone I have a 1.4 5 speed box and diff setup including the linkages £75

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