Happy 360 owner

[Okta]

Hey everyone, I'm Okta from Hungary. I was looking for a 360 here but it is quite rare (we have more 340 diesels) but finally found it: a '89 born baby.
Not in a bad shape but there are things to do: shifting gears are not smooth, suspension has to be checked, etc. Bought it from an old man, who got this car a long time ago from the first owner - the car has the service book and the original invoice(!)

I will have a dozen tons of question for sure because here only a few enthusiast and did not found them so far. We have quite big VW community here I know because owning one MK1 Golf as daily ride and an MK1 GTI for roadracing. (And a broken one MK1 with 2.0 8V -> currently under construction for rallycross...) So know-how of G1 is OK for me and not afraid of some mechanics but this beauty is bit unknown for me so far.

360

[Okta]

[360beast]

That looks brilliant! One of my favourite colours for a 300 series

Photos of the golfs please, I have a 1985 mk2 CL which I have fitted mk2 GTI rear beam and brake discs to, GTI subframe and G60 front brakes, coilovers and a 1998 mk3 GTI (ABF) engine to. It's not finished yet but it's almost done

[Okta]

Hi, I'm gonna be banned on my first day here because of posting Mk1s.

This is the one before I broke it:

And the GTI:

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[macplaxton]

Hi, I'm gonna be banned on my first day here because of posting Mk1s.

There's only one way to redeem yourself.

(we have more 340 diesels)

Pics of some 300 diesels!

[Ride_on]

What model / spec? Steering wheel and bumpers look different than UK spec.

I remember seeing a few 340s in Hungary when I was visiting regularly for work about 6 years ago, seemed to be more there than in N.Ireland. Never see any on the road here unless passing through S.Belfast near McHudds house or the 3 other owners.

[MCHUDD]

Hi mate and welcome.
I had a MK1 Golf once. Ablolutly fantastic engine.
360 looks great.
Cheers Mark.

[Okta]

There is gonna be a meeting in June here, I might can take some photos of other V3s there. (I was looking for some pics on the net -it is funny but there is NO 300 series for sale right now on the major Hungarian market sites! )

Here's the link for the meeting: https://www.facebook.com/events/357343464465250/

Btw what are the recommended "basic" modifications on a 360? I can see big drum brake looks fair enough but the front disc looks a bit small for that weight - is there an option for upgrading it, like from a 400s? Shock absorbers: I read Landy/Patrol(?) ones would do.

Oh, one more: I have the original 13" alloy rims from the car (I put 15" under it already ) - what can be the value of it? I would sell if worth something, if not the MK1 will get it.

[SteveP]

Pics of some 300 diesels!

Pervert

[Ride_on]

The front brakes only seem small because there is fashion trend for bigger brakes on modern cars. There is no standard upgrade and I do not think any are necessary. They are fine for the weight of the car, 300s where considered to have good brakes in the day, its more the engine power and time spent braking that determine the rate of heat dissipation required.

If you are going to be racing it then there are plenty of simple changes you can make to improve the cooling and temperature tolerance, rather than put on an adaptor and fixings of unknown strength that violate the original calculations. Never mind the increase in unsprung weight, wheel compatibility, mot concerns etc. Increasing size is a more dangerous and crude approach to engineering improvement.

[Okta]

The front brakes only seem small because there is fashion trend for bigger brakes on modern cars. There is no standard upgrade and I do not think any are necessary. They are fine for the weight of the car, 300s where considered to have good brakes in the day, its more the engine power and time spent braking that determine the rate of heat dissipation required.

Hi, I know that brake is good enough but you know bigger brakes are usually good/better. So no plug&play from like 400 series or other 4*100 like Mk2 GTI Golf, etc...

If you are going to be racing it then there are plenty of simple changes you can make to improve the cooling and temperature tolerance, rather than put on an adaptor and fixings of unknown strength that violate the original calculations. Never mind the increase in unsprung weight, wheel compatibility, mot concerns etc. Increasing size is a more dangerous and crude approach to engineering improvement.

I'm considering of building a historic rally car later but I can do it only step-by-step so keeping the rule of steps as 1.brakes-2.suspension-3.engine upgrading my first idea was the brakes.
- Unsprung weight: different types of tyres can make the same difference not to mention the different wheels.
- Wheel compatibility: have bigger wheels, no prob.
- Mot concerns: I could hunt this beauty down in months here - I do not think local MOT guys could identify not OEM brake on a 360...

Would be appreciated if you could share any ideas if improving the cooling of the disks.

Anyway I do not want to spend billions on upgrading (you know there are cheap solutions for MK1s big brake conversions, real p&p) so a softer paddle would do in first place - any recommendation?

Okta

[Okta]

Pics of some 300 diesels!

Funny, but no diesel for sale on the Hungarian used car sites...but found one in Romania:

http://olx.ro/oferta/vand-sau-schimb-vo ... e8024c6b0c

[gregsx2]

The front brakes only seem small because there is fashion trend for bigger brakes on modern cars. There is no standard upgrade and I do not think any are necessary. They are fine for the weight of the car, 300s where considered to have good brakes in the day, its more the engine power and time spent braking that determine the rate of heat dissipation required.

Hi, I know that brake is good enough but you know bigger brakes are usually good/better. So no plug&play from like 400 series or other 4*100 like Mk2 GTI Golf, etc...

If you are going to be racing it then there are plenty of simple changes you can make to improve the cooling and temperature tolerance, rather than put on an adaptor and fixings of unknown strength that violate the original calculations. Never mind the increase in unsprung weight, wheel compatibility, mot concerns etc. Increasing size is a more dangerous and crude approach to engineering improvement.

I'm considering of building a historic rally car later but I can do it only step-by-step so keeping the rule of steps as 1.brakes-2.suspension-3.engine upgrading my first idea was the brakes.
- Unsprung weight: different types of tyres can make the same difference not to mention the different wheels.
- Wheel compatibility: have bigger wheels, no prob.
- Mot concerns: I could hunt this beauty down in months here - I do not think local MOT guys could identify not OEM brake on a 360...

Would be appreciated if you could share any ideas if improving the cooling of the disks.

Anyway I do not want to spend billions on upgrading (you know there are cheap solutions for MK1s big brake conversions, real p&p) so a softer paddle would do in first place - any recommendation?

Okta

I can help with bigger brakes or other "racing" parts

ps: amúgy szép szín

[Ride_on]

Improve heat tolerance
New brake fluid will increase the boiling temp by 100C compared with old fliud, racers change theirs every race.
Use high temp brake pads, normal ones will melt and disappear.

Improve heat removal
Higher temps will lose heat at a higher rate, so the above improvements will also benefit removal.
Use a thick new brake cover plate like the mgb ones, it acts as a heat sink to the caliper , ensure good thermal coupling, M7 bolts.
Cut a section from the disk cover and convert to an air scoop, perhaps add a mesh to stop stones entering. Consider ducts from the valence.
Use metal braided brake line
Use a looping brake circuit to allow fluid circulation via the bleed valve. Pumps and heat sinks maybe available.
Use drille dimpled disk.
Make sure rears are taking their share of the load.
Use alloy wheels with good thermal coupling between the hub and wheel, copper grease may help

Brake hard to encourage higher temps and longer cooling periods, the higher temps will be lost faster considering you have the same energy to dissipate.

Thermal cameras for your phone will be mainstream this year, buy one

[Okta]

Hi,

Ride-on, thank you. I'm not sure understand 100%: "Use a looping brake circuit to allow fluid circulation via the bleed valve. Pumps and heat sinks maybe available." Can you please explain it a bit for me?

Hello Gabor, I have sent a PM to you on FB - have you received it?