No more megasquirt in 360 :(

Post by **jtbo** » 18 Jul 2005 05:12 pm

Yes, had to remove it because of MOT.

My car is made 1988 and around mid 1987 is point where rules changes so that I would need catalytic converter to pass mot, then they mark is less polluting vehicle and no mods are allowed to engine anymore.

So back to carb sh*t. Fuel injection is much cleaner but they force me to use carb, great law...

Now I'm planning to get all engine mods at once and then also cat, so I could have even some power.

However I have started to think about another way, older car and put megasquirt to it.
Too bad that I have really put some money into my current car and lot of work, there is not very many things that would require work for it to be level that I like (near perfect).

So here I have now something to think about.

Post by **bodejodel** » 18 Jul 2005 05:27 pm

Stupid laws...

Post by **petefarrell360** » 18 Jul 2005 06:08 pm

Those laws sound ridiculous! A few months difference, and yet the rules change so much. Well, hope you figure something out! What's your insurance like with modifications, as here they are pretty paranoid about any changes, even cosmetic ?
Pete

Post by **jtbo** » 18 Jul 2005 06:30 pm

petefarrell360 wrote:Those laws sound ridiculous! A few months difference, and yet the rules change so much. Well, hope you figure something out! What's your insurance like with modifications, as here they are pretty paranoid about any changes, even cosmetic ?
Pete

I guess I could take roof off and no changes to insurance

It could be worse, as you see in worse case this limit is only one day, it is not based car model or anything like that, they just did the easy thing and decided that this is the date and that separates even two identical cars. Well, our goverment has never proven to be too intelligent, imo...

Post by **Chris_C** » 18 Jul 2005 11:26 pm

We have kinda similar, anything after '92 MUST have a cat, but I don't know how tight the MOT is with it, as a lot of people take them out, not that the 1.1 corsa will benefit much!

Post by **jtbo** » 19 Jul 2005 07:04 am

Chris_C wrote:We have kinda similar, anything after '92 MUST have a cat, but I don't know how tight the MOT is with it, as a lot of people take them out, not that the 1.1 corsa will benefit much!

I think that we have that too, cars after 92 are almost impossible to mod, if one likes to add turbocharger over, 1000 euros needed for emission tests.

I think that I will get older car while they still exists

Post by **foggyjames** » 20 Jul 2005 02:52 am

Couldn't you tune MS to not kill the cat? Or is this simply modification related, not emissions? If you could modify it for more power, but still improve the emissions (perfectly possible), and they still have a problem...that's crazy!

cheers

James

Post by **jtbo** » 20 Jul 2005 07:52 am

foggyjames wrote:Couldn't you tune MS to not kill the cat? Or is this simply modification related, not emissions? If you could modify it for more power, but still improve the emissions (perfectly possible), and they still have a problem...that's crazy!

cheers

James

I don't have a cat. If I put cat in then I could not anymore alter engine, so no turbocharging etc.

But if I put turbo and stuff in and then throw a cat in too, no problem.

Oh yes, it is crazy, stupid, idiotism, but car hobby is almost a crime here I see

They have no problem with broken cisac that makes lot of pollution, but they do have problem with fuel injection conversion that is not polluting even near as much as is original.
Not allowed to use brains, 'book says this and we do this, we always have, we don't think' is their song I think.

Driving with cisac is quite a pain, with small throttle car is like skippy, jumping a lot, with more throttle less like skippy, but still engine is not running smooth, only at full throttle it seems to work barely.

Need to take renix out and clean it first, maybe I also buy B19E ignition stuff so I can test if it is indeed ignition related.
I had very little same like problem with injection stiff installed, but it was not really a problem, adjusting problematic rpm area to richer mixture solved it, so I think it is ignition related problem.

Post by **bodejodel** » 20 Jul 2005 08:17 am

What's cisac?

Post by **jtbo** » 20 Jul 2005 08:18 am

bodejodel wrote:What's cisac?

This stupid carb thing, solex whatever it name is...

Post by **bodejodel** » 20 Jul 2005 08:19 am

Ok, thanks!

Post by **foggyjames** » 20 Jul 2005 01:16 pm

Solex CISAC 34/34
CISAC is the model, and 34/34 are the throttle butterfly sizes.

Similarly, my carbs are ADDHE 40s

cheers

James

Post by **classicswede** » 20 Jul 2005 10:01 pm

Have you thought about LPG? In the uk if you have LPG fitted you can remove the cat and still pass the emissions test something I have done many times and it gives it a healthy power boost.

Dai

Post by **jtbo** » 21 Jul 2005 08:07 pm

No, we don't have LPG at all...

I put fuel injection parts back as it passed MOT today without any notes, it is huge improvement over carb

Next summer I will have bit more to do to pass MOT, but nothing too hard I guess. Real power by then, I hope.