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Post by germ » 07 May 2007 03:21 pm

hehe very nice i live in france at the mo and ive got so many dutch friends you guys are great really inspiring the've been saying i should visit and i really want to.

it seams you all have massive barns with every tool imaginable-i want that that would be soo cool 8)

i wanna learn to drift too :P but not in my 340 as it will probally brake :(

maybe i should buy a poor example to practise all the things i want to do :body work drifting suspension set up engine tuning < that would be cool to do all that 8)


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Post by jtbo » 07 May 2007 03:27 pm

germ, build cheap kit car or cook up something self made with tubular frame and odd engine?
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Post by germ » 07 May 2007 03:40 pm

^^^ :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Ive allways wanted to make a (cheap) kit car :) :) :) :)


Cool yeah i could do that hehehehehahahahah :twisted: :idea: :twisted:

ok i but some front wheel drive tat to base it on r5 nova metro

r5 is maybe cheapest in france use it as my donar car and make a tube frame that would be cool
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Post by jtbo » 07 May 2007 03:44 pm

And it would not be slow, 300 or 400kg max and you will find lot of parts to spice up 1.4l engine so it would be something like 5-6 seconds 0-100kph, would be wild thing.

I will do such thing someday, but first need to buy house or at least some warehouse/garage ;)
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Post by Frits » 07 May 2007 09:55 pm

Hi Germ, I'm pleased to hear that.

I think you can better customize your 340, because building some drivable buggy would be a lot of work. Don't be afraid to brake your 340. You just keep becareful, like i do. I do like my 340 very much, and i also don't wanna brake it. All technical damage is possible to repair, I think that's no problem. But yeah, there is always a bigger risk.

And if you're really love youre 340, buy a second one.. And do what you like.

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Post by Frits » 10 May 2007 06:42 pm

Bought a "new" vario today... I'll put it this weekend on. I'll take the old one off, and take a look or it is possibel to weld the diff. Maybe some new bearings etc.

Also bought a colour spray witch match exact with the original colour. The screen refurbish can start :)

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Post by Frits » 21 May 2007 03:36 pm

I'm back from a driftday at RDW circuit lelystad. I "ll tell you my experience.

06:45
I wanted to get out of my bed, but slept trough the wake up thing...
07:45
Got telephoned out of my bed by a mate.. Toke a quick shower, and jumped into the car. A our and a little bit more later I was just in time at the track.
09:15
A little theory lesson, wich wasn't more than "respect for others material" and "you don't want theory, so lets go drift"
09:30
Started calm, just look how the track looks like. The track was made wet, so its more easy to go sideways. One of the instructers drifted a few times in my car, told me the car was diffecult to drift (not stranges, with the 1.4 vario...) In the beginning I was drifting each corner, later more drifting from corner to corner.
13:30
Pauze, just a quick fuel consumption.
14:00
Drifting again, I was getting better and better, drifting the whole track 5 times around, from drift into drift, a lot a of maximum angle and without spinning. When the wet tarmac became dry, i stopped drifting because I didn't had enough power. Later, when i knew how it should be on dry, I started with high speed drifting into the corners, twice the speed compared to the BMW's.. (they had 100% sper and 170 bhp, and can go sideways without idiot speeds :P ) They have made movies, but i don't know or the filmed me. (lets hope)
17:00
The day is over, wow now already? Damn, it want more :lol:

Some telephone made pics:

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Unfortunately I have no action photo's. .. There are made, I hope I can find something on the web.

I hope even more I am in the movie, wich will be availeble in a week.. I'll post the link.

And yes, it felt good to see that I did a lot better than other people who were there for the thirt time, and drove a welded diff and 190bhp Beamer...

If I can prepar my car a little bit more (welded diff, suspension and dampers changed) I wanna go for my drift License

Grtz..

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Post by SteveP » 21 May 2007 04:44 pm

Nice post! Sounds like its going well, it always impresses me how far you can go with a variomatic :shock: :D
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Post by Ali » 21 May 2007 04:50 pm

Impressive stuff Frits :D Good to see you having a lot of fun and showing up the more powerful cars! When you step into a powerful car your going to find it so easy! You should really try to do the suspension next, then you can probably make more use of the power you have, also worth getting a bucket seat if you haven't already, bet it was hard work holding on! What tyre pressures did you use?
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Post by Frits » 21 May 2007 04:51 pm

Yes, its going very well. And the most important thing, i think, i do like it so much!

I wonder how it wil go with a welded diff. Drifting will be better, but at the moment i still use my car for daily drive.... :?

Anyway, I also do wonder what the variomatic thinks about drifting, it needs cool air, wich won't get in the intake in the bumper, while going sideway. I vario already gets very hot, in normal use! However, dind'nt got any trouble last sunday. :P

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Post by Ali » 21 May 2007 04:55 pm

Will welding the diff not put excess force on the belts? I don't know how the variomatics work. You should cut your springs and fit some adjustable rear dampers, will make a lot of difference :wink:
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Post by Frits » 21 May 2007 04:58 pm

Ali: didn't see your post;


Everybody says it.. If you can drift this car, a powerfull one is a piece of cake. ... We will see, the 343 isn't finished yet :P actually, I don't know or the 1.4 turbo is enough... maybe a 16v in this 340 :P

Back to reality, I really gonna do the suspension next, I've alreay almost all the stuff.. Think about 4cm lower, rear and front. (maybe rear a little bit more)

Bucket seat! What a word! I am complete smashed from the left to the right of the car, The whole day long.. My body hurts everywhere .. Gehehe :P really need to get one indeed :shock:


tirepressue I used:

Front: 2.5 Bar
Rear 4.0 Bar

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Post by Frits » 21 May 2007 05:01 pm

I think a welded diff not put many extra stress on the belts.. I can explain the variomatic, but if you wanna know, I think its better to search.. :)

i have:

OMP front springs
Koni adjustable front
Koni adjustable extra load rear
and a set adjustable koni rear

This is NOT on my car

It was for my 343 turbo, but i think i put it on this car, and find extra sets for the 343..

I will see... :P

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Post by Ali » 21 May 2007 05:06 pm

Ahhh brilliant!! Yeah get them on and get practising, can always swap them onto the turbo car afterwards!

I'd really recommend getting a bucket seat, you want to be concentrating on the driving, not trying to stop yourself getting thrown around, same as if you can pick up a cheap harness its worth having.

I suppose the welded diff will put strain on the driveshafts rather than the belts just like on a manual car, I heard the vario acted as an LSD though but if its not locking up enough then get that thing welded, will make a lot of difference and be really predictable
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Post by pistonpen paultje » 22 May 2007 09:33 am

the variomatic thats under the volvo's doesn't really act as a lsd. The belts connect to the diff, and the diff divides the power to each wheel.

Old DAF systems, uses belts on the shafts, that would work as a LSD

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