Soundproofing,front beam,engine mounts
Soundproofing,front beam,engine mounts
I haven't posted anything related to my car lately so a small update.
Against the current trend I've been renewing the soundproofing instead of removing it totally. I removed the floor upholstery and I've been driving like this for a month now.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3259.JPG
Luckily there wasn't much rust in floors, one small hole at the driver's side floor and two holes at the each side at the inner sills (at the same spots where there were holes at the outer sills before those got replaced) but those few spots are welded now.. Paint had suffered at few spots so I sanded the spots and gave them good coating of rustproof undercoat. Those spots are going to get a very tough topcoat too when I'll get to it.. But basically everything was in better shape than I expected.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3260.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3261.JPG
Removing the old soundproofing was easy as it was badly cracked and mostly in small pieces..
Then I washed the floors with Xylene and sanded down the spots where the paint had cracked.
and just when I was finished it started snowing "a bit"
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3263.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3264.JPG
Quite a good timing..
I bought couple of packages of Vibroplast.
http://www.powerset.fi/autohifi/tarvikk ... oplast.jpg
It's a soundproofing material more advanced than the common bitumen It's much more elastic and can be installed pretty much without a heat gun. It doesn't crack as easilly as bitumen does in cold weather. I'm going to put that in the footwell areas and under the seats I'm going to but common bitumen. I also got rid of the foam material between the stock bitumen and the floor upholstery as it seems to gather quite a lot of moisture.. I'm going to put this in the place of the stock foam stuff http://www.hifikonex.fi/shop/kuvat/vibr ... en3008.jpg It's from the same company which makes the Vibroplast. Soft foam type material but it doesn't absorb water at all so much better.
Dynamat has similiar advanced soundproofing products too, which give 1-2db better soundproofing than the Standartplast stuff, but those cost so much that the Standartplast stuff is enough for me as I'm not building a HiFi car, just renewing the old soundproofing.
The current front beam in the car is in a quite bad shape so I got a "new" one from the wreckers and got it sandblasted.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3268.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3269.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3271.JPG
Now I'll just have to paint it. I'll use same paints which I used for the floors.
I'm going to fit "new" engine mounts at the same time when I'll replace the front beam.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/GLT/tuet.JPG
Drained and filled completely with polyurethane. The engine shouldn't hang too low anymore with those.
Against the current trend I've been renewing the soundproofing instead of removing it totally. I removed the floor upholstery and I've been driving like this for a month now.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3259.JPG
Luckily there wasn't much rust in floors, one small hole at the driver's side floor and two holes at the each side at the inner sills (at the same spots where there were holes at the outer sills before those got replaced) but those few spots are welded now.. Paint had suffered at few spots so I sanded the spots and gave them good coating of rustproof undercoat. Those spots are going to get a very tough topcoat too when I'll get to it.. But basically everything was in better shape than I expected.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3260.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3261.JPG
Removing the old soundproofing was easy as it was badly cracked and mostly in small pieces..
Then I washed the floors with Xylene and sanded down the spots where the paint had cracked.
and just when I was finished it started snowing "a bit"
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3263.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3264.JPG
Quite a good timing..
I bought couple of packages of Vibroplast.
http://www.powerset.fi/autohifi/tarvikk ... oplast.jpg
It's a soundproofing material more advanced than the common bitumen It's much more elastic and can be installed pretty much without a heat gun. It doesn't crack as easilly as bitumen does in cold weather. I'm going to put that in the footwell areas and under the seats I'm going to but common bitumen. I also got rid of the foam material between the stock bitumen and the floor upholstery as it seems to gather quite a lot of moisture.. I'm going to put this in the place of the stock foam stuff http://www.hifikonex.fi/shop/kuvat/vibr ... en3008.jpg It's from the same company which makes the Vibroplast. Soft foam type material but it doesn't absorb water at all so much better.
Dynamat has similiar advanced soundproofing products too, which give 1-2db better soundproofing than the Standartplast stuff, but those cost so much that the Standartplast stuff is enough for me as I'm not building a HiFi car, just renewing the old soundproofing.
The current front beam in the car is in a quite bad shape so I got a "new" one from the wreckers and got it sandblasted.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3268.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3269.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3271.JPG
Now I'll just have to paint it. I'll use same paints which I used for the floors.
I'm going to fit "new" engine mounts at the same time when I'll replace the front beam.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/GLT/tuet.JPG
Drained and filled completely with polyurethane. The engine shouldn't hang too low anymore with those.
Last edited by Fuse on 22 Mar 2008 03:45 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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I painted the beam with Rostex.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... 20seal.jpg
It's going to get same topcoat as the floors did.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... 20seal.jpg
It's going to get same topcoat as the floors did.
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Noo it's not the one you gave me. The one you gave me was painted with same stuff and installed in the GL.aukki wrote:"from the wreckers" ?
Looks good !
This one I really bought from a wrecker @ Tattarisuo.
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Glutton for punishment?SteveP wrote:Excellent work and inspiration... I was thinking about taking the interior out of mine during the summer to inspect the floor etc.... looks a worthwhile job for peace of mind!
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~15 euros which is cheap price from a wrecker @ Tattarisuo.aukki wrote:Uups...Fuse wrote:[
Noo it's not the one you gave me. The one you gave me was painted with same stuff and installed in the GL.
This one I really bought from a wrecker @ Tattarisuo.
How much Mr Tattariletto wanted ?
Some progress
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3584.JPG
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3585.JPG
Just put in few mats. I'm going to need to buy a one more package, then there's enough Vibroplast for the lower firewall parts too and some smaller strips for the front and central parts of the floor.
I also bought some fuel hose stuff as return hose in the car leaks a bit. I'm going to replace both hoses at the same time.
Pressure side
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... G_3588.JPG
All way from the pump to the filter with the hose so there will be no unnessecary clamps etc...
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I wouldn't bother removing sound deadening, theres a lot I would do before that! - also if you do remove the sound deadening, you better not leave the cd player, speakers and associated wiring in the car - that make hulk mad! (some people go to the extent of removing the sound deadening for "performance" and still fit a subwoofer! )
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http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/G ... npuoli.JPG
Now it's starting to look a bit better.. Still need to put some mats on to the co-driver's side and when that's done I'll put the rubber+Splen 3008 mat combo on top (similiar as the stock foam+rubber mat thinggy, but without the water absorbing feature )
Now it's starting to look a bit better.. Still need to put some mats on to the co-driver's side and when that's done I'll put the rubber+Splen 3008 mat combo on top (similiar as the stock foam+rubber mat thinggy, but without the water absorbing feature )
Volvo R-Sport - Equipment for the car enthusiast.
“Buy land, they're not making it anymore” - Mark Twain
"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." -Ernest Hemingway
“Buy land, they're not making it anymore” - Mark Twain
"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games." -Ernest Hemingway