Why?

Post by **germ** » 28 Mar 2008 04:36 pm

ok i wrote one long post and my pc blue screen of deathed on me so to recap...

some little c### has filled my carb with water..how?

my battery was on charge hence bonnet un latched.

and how do i know it was someone? the filter lid was not corectly in place.

totally filled with water engine wouldent turn iam not happy

spark plug place filled with water every thing

engine wont even turn with plugs out

i wanted to take her out for a spin wash and make some pics of progress etc.. but no not allowed!

she had 122,000 when i got her

body work still in good condition.

and the arches are puuurfect.

sills are damn good too just need a clean.

i think i know who did the water thing to my car...1.2corsa chav that i may of embarrased in da volvo

saw his car outside yesterday..

ohh well if i cant get her going iam going to have to speed up me conversion!

Cheers
will

Post by **sven360** » 28 Mar 2008 04:46 pm

Got an aqua vac?-tha's got hydraulicing.
Either that or a pipe and suck like Divine Brown-gravity is your friend or ya'll get a mouthful of mucky water

Post by **germ** » 28 Mar 2008 05:30 pm

got some water out..in an explosion

it just went BANG! when i turned the key after cleaning the plugs etc i thought maybe the cambelt snaped or something for a sec but it seems ok, what if it siezes up

Post by MJ » 28 Mar 2008 05:32 pm

Why would anyone do that? What's wrong with people these days...

People say I'm paranoid about security, but these days you never can tell what people will do

Make sure you get all the water out before trying to start her. Too much water will increase the compression and could cause more damage. And get it out quick!

EDIT: Oh, you've got it started, well done. I'm only guessing, don't take my word for it, but would running it for a while be a good idea to dry it out?

Post by **germ** » 28 Mar 2008 05:44 pm

MJ, you should of seen this guys anger when i over toke him....road rage can be really bad. iam pritty sure it was this chav otherwise why would he be outside my house.. i never even saw his car before i over toke him. found an empty water bottle too.

called the politzi and they said iam making too much fuss over nothing.

wtf over nothing my car is vandalised and most likly dead now.

i have "no proof" and don't know the guys number plate. this is what? the 3rd time the volvo's been picked on and i live in a posh area...dread to think what its like elsewhere.

need to free the garage up asap!

ohh and the clio had a piece of trim nicked off of it when it was parked in sainsburys, got it back

found a clio in the car park missing that bit of trim and waited for the owner to come back! guess what it was in his helfrauds bag..

Cheers
will

Post by **sven360** » 28 Mar 2008 05:50 pm

Simple explanation for simple people.
Water enters engine lies above piston.
Loon puts spark plugs back in head and then cranks motor over.
Pistons try and rise but due to water in pot struggle as they are designed to compress an appropriate air/fuel mix not water, until critical mass is reached-valves bent to buggery.

That's a worst case scenario if you're lucky and have done no damage-put the lotto on.

Please tell me you cranked it with the plugs out

Post by **trabitom99** » 28 Mar 2008 05:59 pm

Ouch! Fingers crossed there's no permanent damage, Will!

I'll go and punch the first Corsa driver I meet, shall I?

Tom

Post by **Jason B** » 28 Mar 2008 05:59 pm

I'm guessing not, in which case you'll be needing a new engine head (if you're lucky) as water tends not to compress like atomised fuel and air

Post by **sven360** » 28 Mar 2008 06:02 pm

Jason B wrote: water tends not to compress like atomised fuel and air

Care to explain professor???
I no understand.

Post by **germ** » 28 Mar 2008 06:21 pm

Tom: Please!

Sven/Jason : turned it over with out plugs before hand... thinkin thats cleared most of it..but i seem to be wrong

just got it going for about 6 seconds with aload of bang BOOM! BANG sounds..

but alas battery is as low as i want it to go so is on charge.

i will fix it (possitive) even if it means rebuilding. something else good to throw money at and learn some more stuff. i hope its as easy as bm moters to rebuild! or finish my other moter to put in.

Cheers
will

Post by **Jason B** » 28 Mar 2008 06:22 pm

This is another excuse for me to boost my post count ever nearer to yours by spouting endless rubbish

, however in this case I shall simply recommend the book "mechanics of fluids" by Bernard Massey (chapters 1-3 ought to suffice) as this avoids debates about compressibility effects of fluids and whether systems are adiabatic/isothermal etc - A summary: lots of water + cylinder bores + cranking = BAD!

Post by **sven360** » 28 Mar 2008 06:45 pm

germ wrote:
just got it going for about 6 seconds with aload of bang BOOM! BANG sounds..

Cheers
will

Ah well that' alright then,them diesels sometimes make a racket when they first bark into life.

Good answer Jason do you have the ISBN number for that publication??
Might treat Mrs Sven for her birthday.

Post by **jtbo** » 28 Mar 2008 06:52 pm

I don't know what is wrong with kids today, but I certainly would like to beat some kids to some extreme for sure.

My 360 has 2 round dents now at passenger side door, under the door handle. I noticed there was one last weekend, now there is two, when I find out who did it I will make few dent's to his forehead. And no, I'm not believing no violence allowed ways, today's kids are too much of crap for that.

Post by **germ** » 28 Mar 2008 06:52 pm

Diesel

Post by **Jason B** » 28 Mar 2008 06:56 pm

definitely, keep cranking it until all the water is gone and it's running on maybe one cylinder then fill the tank with diesel and enjoy

@sven I shall try and hunt down the ISBN (think I left the book in soton though), would make a lovely present for the missus, sometimes you are too generous!