Car tax changes

[car]

Hi team, I don't know if people read the article from the Times yesterday (link given below), but wondering if it affects the 360? Basically older cars that emit too much of the bad stuff will no longer get exemptions from the higher rates of car tax. It's an interesting read and would certainly have an impact on any classic car I purchase...

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/li ... 842848.ece

[Chris_C]

Saw this on the Sky News site last night, and hoped it was all b*llocks, but another source isn't great. I'm intrigued to see what happens, neither source explains clearly what is going on, but means I might have to look through the paperwork carefully before I decided which of my cars finally ends up becoming the turbo, I bought Kar before Apr 2001 from memory...

[Chris_C]

Hmmm, intertron forums around the world are confused as to what is meant by the press. I can't find anything to substantiate the claims made by the media, however, that doesn't mean it isn't there.

I'm going by this years budget report, the relevant chapter of which can be found at

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/2/5 ... aptera.pdf

With effect from 1 April 2009, and as set out in Table 8a, VED for cars, registered on or after 1 March 2001, will be reformed to include six new bands. From 1 April 2010, a new first year VED rate will be introduced. With effect from 1 April 2009, and as set out in Table 8b, the lower rate of VED for cars and light good vehicles registered before 2001 is frozen and the higher rate will rise by £15. With effect from 1 April 2009, the VED rate for light goods vehicles registered after 2001 will rise by £15. With effect from 1 April 2010, the VED rate for cars and light goods vehicles registered before 2001 will be increased in line with indexation. (35)

Table 8b referred to is on Page 125 and shows clearly the yearly road tax until 2010, at the rate at which we would expect. This information clearly conflicts with that portrayed by the media over the last 12 hours. As much as I'm not their biggest fan, I'm more inclined to believe the government than 90% of the press, but take the info and decide for yourselves, I'm not up on the inner workings enough to understand the intricacies.

[redline]

my understanding of it is that its new cars " registered "after 2001 that are affected .

old cars getting a " change of keeper " will remain as they were

so it certainly shouldent affect cars like the 300's

[Chris_C]

Thats how I read it originally Mick, but it's not what media is reporting today

[Jason B]

I've also read media that report it the way it looks and the way that mick and I have interpreted it. Though I wouldn't put anything past the government.

[Chris_C]

Hmmm, reading again it looks like I was half asleep when I read the sky news thing last night, it states 2001 or new cars, where I got the idea of cars pre 2001 I have no idea

Media does agree with budget, I'll go back to sleep!

[V6 Man]

It goes like this..

A long time ago in a galaxy far away;

Cars cost a fixed rate per year to tax.


Slightly less time ago;

Cars now cost two rates - 150 for those over 1400cc, and 100 for those under.


March 2001;

New cars now taxed in 6 bands with the most polluting paying 200pa and the least polluting about 50pa
Pre 03/01 cars still at old rates.

March 2006;

Bands now extended to 12 with the highest bands still at £200pa and the lowest now free. Pre 2006 cars still on old banding structure and rates.
Pre 2001 cars now £180pa for those over 1600cc, or £100 for those under (note the capacity change).

March 2008;

Announced that the duty rates for 2006 on cars are to rise dramatically from 2009. Lowest band will still pay nothing, but band 'M' will now pay £400 a year from 2009 and £455 in 2010.
2001 - 2006 cars now reclassified as per post 2006 cars.
Pre 2001 cars now £200/£100.



What this means is that any Y plate (or newer) car in any band higher than D will now get into the higher KLM bands and thus pay a fortune from 2009.

My dads Honda Accord 2.2 Type V goes from old band F to new band K and thus is now £330pa instead of £205.

S80 2.9's, T6's, S60R's, V70R's etc all now fall in band M so are £455 a year. Vectra V6's, Mondeo ST220's and such also fall into the new band L and M so they are going to drop drastically in price soon as the tax outweighs the value of the car. You'll soon get these cars for free!

Instead of setting the rebanding limits a little more evenly they have kept the top band at 225kg/km in order to clobber the lower emitting 4x4's and are now hitting family and luxury cars instead. there is too much of a variance in band M for it to be truly fair, what they should have doen if it really were an environmental tax is to add extra bands instead of making lots more low down. Of course, that would have lead to less revenue than the current system so was bound not to happen!

[car]

Crikey, I'm dopey. I too read this as pre-2001 and had even got it into my head that J-reg cars were 2001 rather than 1991. I'm getting old, even now 1991 seems like 7 years ago, not 17!
Thanks for everyone's help, and sorry if I worried a few people.

[redline]

so my May 2001 trajet is going to get clobbered next year ,



with its 271 g/km thats £440 next year

[Chris_C]

I did the same car, I had the understanding as per Ruperts post, then misread the thing last night!

[hatch360]

You are all getting ripped over there

[mac]

Mac is pissed! The wifes C70 goes from F - K.

Two things to remember here - the 2006 penalty for being mobile (and hence being more difficult to control) has now been applied retrospectively. This penalises motorist for descisions made in the past (would that we could apply that to the politicians).

Secondly the only thing that so far has stopped "out little Darling" from including pre 2001 cars in this nice little earner is the fact that CO2 emissions are not included on the V5C. As soon as some "advisor" works out that you can interpolate CO2 in g/km from the permitted CO level (against which the car is measured for the MOT test) we might well expect 300s to be included in bank K. Going on past performance I think this is only a matter of time.

Unfortunately a change at the feeding trough won't help - a new government NEVER reverses the unpopular descisions of the past (they like to keep reminders to allow them to continue to blame the previous crew).

Me - cynical - surely not old Mac.

[redline]

oh feck any one want to buy a 3.0 camry lol

[filthyjohn]

Just think of all the cheap engine donors!