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Post by petefarrell360 » 03 May 2008 01:39 am

Indeed, not a bad plan John, drop the newer highly taxed engines in an older shell, the car body is old, thus what they are taxing it upon, the engine itself is not......

They will rob you in one way or another. Don't even get me started on the incompetent clowns they appointed to collect the money they rob you of and that enforce the taxation.

I think the older cars have been ignored for now, they're wise enough to hit the motorist in groups, so that the newer car owners don't get our support, then we won't get any help or sympathy when they introduce it for our cars in a few years time. They won't allow people to continue using, or start using older vehicles more as they are cheaper to tax for long, trust me!

In reality everyone needs to group together and oppose any taxation increase altogether. We all know the road fund licence is a joke, my wheel sounded like it was ripped from the car and I really felt the force of it from within the car. The roads are shocking, the motorist is being robbed and penalised for driving and gets nothing in return, as well as being taxed to the eyeballs on fuel!

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Post by Chris_C » 03 May 2008 07:09 pm

petefarrell360 wrote:In reality everyone needs to group together and oppose any taxation increase altogether. We all know the road fund licence is a joke, my wheel sounded like it was ripped from the car and I really felt the force of it from within the car. The roads are shocking, the motorist is being robbed and penalised for driving and gets nothing in return, as well as being taxed to the eyeballs on fuel!
It's been called vehicle exise duty for as long as we have been driving for a reason buddy, it doens't have to be spent on the roads at all :(
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Post by Ronnie » 03 May 2008 07:34 pm

Rupert - thanks for setting that out so clearly
mac wrote:the 2006 penalty for being mobile (and hence being more difficult to control) has now been applied retrospectively.

And here's me thinking I'm the only paranoid one :) - but as they say, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out to get you!
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Post by retrocool73 » 03 May 2008 07:44 pm

I think that 'natural wastage' may render plans to class pre-2001 cars by CO2 emissions redundant as the amount of these cars on the road by, say, 2012 will be minimal and ever-decreasing. Certainly the viablilty and value of most 10 year old family cars are at all-time low & cars are getting scrapped left, right & centre for daft reasons
A change of adminstration may help our cause in the long term - they won't be touting it as a vote-winner and will probably pass it quietly but there are a signifficant number of Tories active in the classic car scene keen to restore the rolling exemption Cyclops removed as soon as he could, though perhaps to a rolling 30 years as opposed to the old rolling 25 years, which would mean it would eventually catch up with the 300's

mac wrote:Mac is pissed! The wifes C70 goes from F - K.

Two things to remember here - the 2006 penalty for being mobile (and hence being more difficult to control) has now been applied retrospectively. This penalises motorist for descisions made in the past (would that we could apply that to the politicians).

Secondly the only thing that so far has stopped "out little Darling" from including pre 2001 cars in this nice little earner is the fact that CO2 emissions are not included on the V5C. As soon as some "advisor" works out that you can interpolate CO2 in g/km from the permitted CO level (against which the car is measured for the MOT test) we might well expect 300s to be included in bank K. Going on past performance I think this is only a matter of time.

Unfortunately a change at the feeding trough won't help - a new government NEVER reverses the unpopular descisions of the past (they like to keep reminders to allow them to continue to blame the previous crew).

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Post by filthyjohn » 05 May 2008 10:42 pm

If they're down with classic motors, maybe I can forgive the tories for utterly destroying the economy of the north of England. There's no longer any reason to cling to the Labour party. They aren't the working man's friend as some people seem to still believe, even after the way they've shafted the poorest and hardest working people in the nation, and traded favours with some of the most smug, wealthy Ba$tards ever to walk the earth.
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Post by filthyjohn » 05 May 2008 10:45 pm

If they're down with classic motors, maybe I can forgive the tories for utterly destroying the economy of the north of England. There's no longer any reason to cling to the Labour party. They aren't the working man's friend as some people seem to still believe, even after the way they've shafted the poorest and hardest working people in the nation, and traded favours with some of the most smug, wealthy Ba$tards ever to walk the earth.

Oh, and R32 capri anyone? M5 V10 in a moggy minor?
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Post by germ » 06 May 2008 06:26 pm

btw Labour have always been dodgy , Conservatives saved money for times like now economic crisis. all the bull thats doing the rounds about how bad the concervatives are is bull....

any way i dont know if the econ can be saved now, maybe the concervatives will lower car tax and make volvo 300s tax exept 8)
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