Stopping distances of 360/340?

A global place for general discussion (Volvo, V3M or non-Volvo related topics).
Please introduce yourself here, your Volvo 300 hobby...
NO technical support, parts requests or car advertisements here
Post Reply
User avatar
jtbo
Posts: 5805
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 03:50 am
Location: Finland, middle of nowhere
Contact:

Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by jtbo » 24 Jan 2009 12:21 pm

Does anyone have old car review magazines where would be test of braking distance?

Something like this?
http://www.movit.de/rahmen/stoptbl.htm

Every other piece of such information like skidpad results etc are appreciated :)
Volvo 360GL -88 -under restoration-
Volvo 343DL vario -81 -running- Image
Volvo 240 Diesel -83 -undecided-
Citroen ZX Dturbo -97 -daily- ImageImage

User avatar
MJ
*** V3M DONOR ***
Posts: 1933
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 10:32 pm
Location: Devon/Staffordshire, UK

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by MJ » 25 Jan 2009 05:38 pm

This might be of use, but it was for an early Mk1 340DL, so they may well have uprated some bits later

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... iew#p82565
Image

User avatar
jtbo
Posts: 5805
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 03:50 am
Location: Finland, middle of nowhere
Contact:

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by jtbo » 25 Jan 2009 06:44 pm

Thanks, can't believe I could not remember that one :shock:

In 360 they added larger rear drums, also at some point there was change in front brakes, but also car's weight did increase over time, so I would think that distance is quite the same.

Brakes are hard to get right as there are so many factors, heat, tires, brake power, etc. I have brake power however measured from each wheel, just need to get other values set so that it stops in correct distance and also performs authentically under various conditions. Just so little time for all that.

Of course I had to make own test facility for all that too, which took quite some time and always I get ideas for improving so need to build more and more so time goes there and not testing :lol:
Volvo 360GL -88 -under restoration-
Volvo 343DL vario -81 -running- Image
Volvo 240 Diesel -83 -undecided-
Citroen ZX Dturbo -97 -daily- ImageImage

User avatar
trabitom99
*** V3M DONOR ***
Posts: 4398
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 02:38 pm
Location: Bonn, Germany

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by trabitom99 » 25 Jan 2009 07:19 pm

I've got a printout of a 360 GLT Autocar test from 1982 which Pete posted once.

Is
"Fade (from 78 mph in neutral)
Pedal load for 0.5g stops in lb"
or
"Response (from 30mph in neutral)"

interesting for you? All units are in feet and pounds though ;-)

Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

User avatar
jtbo
Posts: 5805
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 03:50 am
Location: Finland, middle of nowhere
Contact:

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by jtbo » 25 Jan 2009 08:02 pm

trabitom99 wrote:I've got a printout of a 360 GLT Autocar test from 1982 which Pete posted once.

Is
"Fade (from 78 mph in neutral)
Pedal load for 0.5g stops in lb"
or
"Response (from 30mph in neutral)"

interesting for you? All units are in feet and pounds though ;-)

Tom
Sure I'm interested, it does not really matter what units are, I think that I can work out just about any unit there is ;)

lbf - kg/cm² and lbs and Nm/s conversions were not as easy as simple foot and meter, pounds are rather different than damping rate in lbs, which is odd :D
Volvo 360GL -88 -under restoration-
Volvo 343DL vario -81 -running- Image
Volvo 240 Diesel -83 -undecided-
Citroen ZX Dturbo -97 -daily- ImageImage

classicswede
*** V3M DONOR ***
Posts: 5461
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 06:52 pm
Location: Anglesey North Wales
Contact:

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by classicswede » 25 Jan 2009 09:15 pm

Did a test on vickys 340 some time ago and if I remeber correctly 30 - 0 MPH in 13 feet

That was with teh 195/50/15's on
Dai

Please email me directly on dai@classicswede.co.uk

http://www.classicswede.com

phone/text 07824887160

Web shop http://www.classicswede.co.uk/

Image

User avatar
jtbo
Posts: 5805
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 03:50 am
Location: Finland, middle of nowhere
Contact:

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by jtbo » 25 Jan 2009 09:46 pm

13 feet is quite good, stops rather well from such slow speed, from very high speed brakes start to heat bit too much, I'm afraid :(
Volvo 360GL -88 -under restoration-
Volvo 343DL vario -81 -running- Image
Volvo 240 Diesel -83 -undecided-
Citroen ZX Dturbo -97 -daily- ImageImage

User avatar
trabitom99
*** V3M DONOR ***
Posts: 4398
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 02:38 pm
Location: Bonn, Germany

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by trabitom99 » 25 Jan 2009 10:08 pm

OK, here's some stuff on brake fade, hope it's of use:

Image

Tom
343 GL Touring B14.1E CVT (155) 98000kms 1980 (sold)
343 L Junior B14.3E MT4 (155) 229000kms 1981 (scrapped)
343 DLS B19A MT4 (155) 167900kms 1982
360 GL Injection B200F MT5 (231) 348598kms 1988 (scrapped)
360 GLT B200F MT5 (302) 230000kms 1988

User avatar
jtbo
Posts: 5805
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 03:50 am
Location: Finland, middle of nowhere
Contact:

Re: Stopping distances of 360/340?

Post by jtbo » 26 Jan 2009 04:43 pm

Thanks Tom :D

I can work out rough plot of fade from that and use it to get fade much closer to reality :wink:
Volvo 360GL -88 -under restoration-
Volvo 343DL vario -81 -running- Image
Volvo 240 Diesel -83 -undecided-
Citroen ZX Dturbo -97 -daily- ImageImage

Post Reply