I spy With My Little Eye

[hodgy21]

Evo magazine - Issue 128 - Page 13

[jtbo]

I try to click, but nothing happens

[volvosneverdie]

I dont like this game.
Have I Won?

What is it?

Im frightened.

[jtbo]

I dont like this game.
Have I Won?

What is it?

Im frightened.

I think, that there is no reason to be afraid, perhaps he just forgot to add url?
So you can come out from under the bed now

[hodgy21]

Jeepers creepers chaps, there's nothing criptic about it.

In EVO magavine, issue number 128 (this month's issue), on page 13, there is a 300, just thought it was pretty cool that a 300 managed to grace the giddy heights of the pages of EVO magazine!

Just have a look in WH Smith, if you don't buy it

[volvosneverdie]

Ah.
Good spot then mate.

[RobT_75]

Trouble is, the editorial the pic is attached to is saying cars like the 300 should be scrapped in exchange for giving the owner £2500 to buy a new car to help stimulate the car industry (similar to what they do in Germany). The flaw in this scheme being - how many new cars can you buy for £2500? One of the reasons I own a 300 is 'cos I'm too skint to afford anything else, and haven't got an extra 5 grand or so lying around to add to the money the govt will give for scrapping my car. And, more importantly, new cars are dull as sh*te

The Evo editor then goes on to say something like "not all older cars should be scrapped of course, like the ones on our cover". And there's another problem. We all have different opinions on what cars are worth saving and those that aren't.

[jtbo]

Where is eco boom when you need one?

Clearly that is waste of natural resources to scrap working car that requires quite little maintenance work.

I think Evo magazine editor is just mad as 300 has been outhandled his Audi S8 super turbo whatever

In this world, I would not be surprised by a law that orders all over 20 years old cars to be put either museum or scrapped. These dickless over social 'happy' persons have messed enough of our good society, they should go back under the rock they crawled in first place.

I would rather see old art scrapped than old cars like 300

[RobT_75]

These dickless over social 'happy' persons :

They're called Members of Parliament over here


IMO magazines like Evo just perpetuate the elitist, snobbish attitudes some car owners have over others with supposedly less impressive motors.

[volvosneverdie]

two and a half grand off a fourteen and a half grand car.

Yeah, great now all I need is twelve grand.

Hang on, do you tink theyd take 7 340s as fullpayment?

Woohoo! then i could afford a Deowoo Matiz!

[jtbo]

I would probably shot my shelf to leg if I had to drive full year with Matiz, even my fwd french crap is causing similar feelings

[trabitom99]

People are falling for it unfortunately. Perfectly good cars are being crushed, the papers are full of it.Why can't politicians just be honest? All that nonsense about wanting to save the environment. First they impose "Umweltzones" in every major city in Germany, effectively banning pre '95 diesels and 80's petrol cars from towns. Forget your Volvo 300 in German towns unless it has a three way catalytic converter (hen's teeth) or has a historic plate (more hen's teeth). Pollution levels have not fallen siginificantly, but this scheme has decimated the amount of older cars on the road.

Now for the latest idea, the "Umweltprämie" of 2500 Euros towards your new (or nearly new) car if you scrap your 9+ year old one. This morning, the local paper had pictures of a very clean looking Merc W124 and a Renault Megane convertible going to the crusher. That Merc would have had a catalytic converter and would have years of life left in it. The energy costs of producing a new one? The equivalent amount of a 4-person household's electricity over 12 years. Where does that energy come from? Nuclear, burning of fossil fuels, and a tiny, tiny percentage from windmills.

Great.

Tom

[jtbo]

Uhm, also that catalytic converter actually increases CO2 which everyone is trying to reduce

Oh why, why these kind of things go trough with majority of people, have they been hypnotized or what?

Will they get also 2500eur if they give car to some Finnish bloke that ships it out from country?

[volvosneverdie]

Ive got an idea.
Stop car production.

You look after the one youve got.
Zero emissions from production, thats going to make quite an impact immediatly.
Though older cars may be slightly less envinmonly friendly, they are here, they work, and if you drive them econimicaly, then you can have good mpg, acceptable levels of emmisions and no emmisions from new production.
Downside is that earnings of the very very fat cats would plummet.
And johnny 'changes his car every year' would have nothing to talk about with his pals at the squash club.

Stop building what we dont need please.

Cuba hasnt had any new cars since the late fifties.
Theyve been managing quite well.

[nomead]

We have that same thing here in Finland too, but fortunately they've set the refund amount so low that it only removes the _really_ junk cars from traffic. We get 500 euros refund towards buying a new car, or 200 euros refund towards getting a used one - but not just any car, it has to be new/expensive enough. So I can't buy a rustbucket on wheels for 200 euros, drive the wheels off it, crush it, and buy another for practically no money