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Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 11 Dec 2009 10:11 pm
by Hell Driver
Just found an 83 Mk1 Polo (sorry I thinks its a Derby) in a local scrapyard, victim of Mr Brown I'm afraid. Scrapage so no chance of ever running again :( But in very good condition, so a real find for VW parts seekers?
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Worth posting a message on a VW or pistonheads site if anyone already registered?

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 12 Dec 2009 11:13 am
by dubweiser666
ya always see a load ov them over on Retro Rides!, good wee cars them!, cheap and indestructable!
Post an ad for parts over there!

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 12 Dec 2009 12:27 pm
by whiskeyonesix
The scrappage scheme boils my piss, I'm glad we don't have anything like that over here..............yet

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 15 Dec 2009 01:28 am
by tomsdubwerks
Bloody hell its a saloon too! The grilles and lights are rare as! Worth metioning on polo3.co.uk or mk1polo.com. I have a 1977 Polo and its an awesome little car... shame all these and other rare beasts are getting scrapped due to that!

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 01:41 am
by Hell Driver
I was wondering if it was worth getting any bits off it before it's too late, only problem is once I start I'll not stop till it's bare. besides, they won't fit on a 300 :lol: If it wasn't a scrapage car I'd ask them if I could buy it, but stupid scrapage means means it's going to get crushed :roll: Anyone know where theres a shell lying around to put the bits on :D

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 03:40 pm
by OapEM
This is such a grey area IMO.

What makes the scrappage scheme cars different to any other scrapped car? I can't see them having their own paperwork etc.
IMO the V5c will be sent back to DVLA as scrap just as you or I would do had we weighed in a car. So the DVLA won't know which are scrapped inside/outside of the scheme.

If that's the case then you can have the certificate of destruction reversed and put it back on the road. You 100% can do this with 'normal' scrapped cars.

All it needs is a VIC test to confirm its ID I do believe.

Cany anyone shed any light on the subject?

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 03:44 pm
by volvosneverdie
The word on RR is exactly as youve just said.
You can put it back on the road, but you need a VIC check and iirc you have to reaply for its origonal identity or reregister it?
Not sure how reliable the word on the street is, but ive seen examples of very rare cars being saved from scrappage (after theyve entered the system) so its certainly possible.
I expect the red-tape is a bit daunting though.

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 04:12 pm
by OapEM
Yeah. I thought it was something like that dude. *bookmarks thread for future needs* I was shot down in flames on the Nova forum when we were discussing it. :roll: :lol:
If I ever heard of anything like that coming my way I'd ask for the destruction cert to be binned, re-apply for it's ID as you say and be booking a VIC.

The scheme just shows itself up to be the big con we all know it is by allowing parts, even the engine from the scappage cars to live on. :roll:

I'm very surprised they don't have a specail paperwork system for handling them though, thus stopping the likes of us from undoing all of the governments 'good' work.
I wonder if they have even though that far ahead. lol

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 04:17 pm
by Ian Mac
I've been looking into this for a while and it seems that vehicles which enter the scrappage scheme have to be issued with a certificate of destruction before the dealer can be paid. Scrappage vehicles can however be sold for parts but their identity has to be removed (VIN plate etc) and they have to be damaged in such a way as to render their return to the road more or less impossible. The favoured method appears to be to cut a large hole in the roof before the vehicle is sold.... :?

In short, a car which has entered the scrappage scheme CAN'T legally be VIC'd back onto the road...

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 04:23 pm
by volvosneverdie
Ive seen a LOT of scrappage vigtims available for 'parts' that are running, and in full order so im not sure how closely the guidelines are being followed then.
I'll try and find the info I was reading and post a link...........

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 04:32 pm
by Ian Mac
There appear to be a number of grey areas. I've been trying to obtain clarification from the Government agency responsible for administering the scheme but they don't bother replying to my emails even though I've had receipts to say they've been read..

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 04:44 pm
by volvosneverdie
Ian Mac wrote:....but they don't bother replying to my emails even though I've had receipts to say they've been read..
That certainly sounds like a Government department!! :lol:

Re: Not a volvo but anyone here on VW forums?

Posted: 16 Dec 2009 09:33 pm
by Hell Driver
I've put a post on the Mk1 polo forum, I didn't really have a good look at the car but from the outside it looked pretty good, I'm assuming that for scrapage it must have been in good running order MOT etc. Really is a shame that these classic cars are getting caught up in will all that 90's tat (good 90's cars excluded of course, but you know what I mean :wink: ). Maybe scrapage should have been for cars between 10 and 15 years old only of which there are still more than 500 examples left on the road. It would still have probably covered more than 99% of the cars going for scrapage now, without the classics going. Typical knee jerk reaction from useless politicians trying to save their own backs :evil: