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Re: Buy or not?

Posted: 20 May 2010 01:06 pm
by jtbo
Ride_on wrote:I would not worry too much about the gremlins, they can usually be made good, but the rust is the killer. My 87 saloon sat out side for a few years and the sills went from bad to terminal. I'm now finding seam rot all through the car.

It can be really well hidden, cancerous growth ready to pop out from the inside once the top layer goes, or you start treating 'small' spots and they turn out to be rather much larger than you thought.
Yes, very large, I do have big scary feel when I look my 360, it may need quite bit of welding as it has been out from road so long, it is amazing how rust can grow in hidden, usually what one sees is just a tip of iceberg.

Re: Buy or not?

Posted: 20 May 2010 08:38 pm
by crazycat
yeah, the rust kinda scares me too...


another thing: is there a way to get the car (I think the engine is B200E or B200K) up to Euro1 or Euro2 emission standards? There aren't any upgrade sets available in germany :(

Re: Buy or not?

Posted: 21 May 2010 01:44 am
by jtbo
Well if we assume that B200F is Euro 1 or 2 as it has often catalytic converter, then installing catalytic converter to B200E (engine in photo, well it could be B200F too, those are not so easy to tell from top for me, here B200F was with cat and B200E without cat) would perhaps do the trick, B200K is with carburettor and catalytic converter + carburettor is fairly bad idea as for catalytic converter 14.7:1 would be needed mixture, but with carb it sometimes is far richer, so it is not going to work so well, even worse is that unburnt fuel that goes to catalytic converter, it tends to cause some damage to it, so it will not be very long term solution.

Then there is legal side, I don't know if your country is as stupid as my country, but here it is not enough to swap parts that you know will reduce emissions to correct level, for example fuel consumption has nothing to do with anything, only what data manufacturer reports are good for officials, so to make car cleaner here you would need some certificates and evidence and full engine swap from car that has had wanted lower emissions or something around that.

But maybe there B200E + catalytic converter is accepted there as it really does what can be done. Does TUV give any information about those? I guess you would need to get it checked by them to get approval for euro 1 or euro 2 if it is possible.
Then there is of course LPG, liquid petroleum gas, do you have that around there?
It could mean that you can get access to city, but from LPG UK members know much more than me, we don't have that, like we haven't had meat in shops for nearly a month now, but that is another thing.

I would think that problem in German is that there buying new car is quite strongly favorited option instead of caring and converting old, that might make getting access to city bit more difficult as it is not commonly done, but then again I don't live there so can't really say, however that is what impression I have got when reading things. It is bit stupid that great countries have to be difficult in some things :lol:

Re: Buy or not?

Posted: 24 May 2010 07:44 pm
by Ronnie
It's a saloon - so my answer would be NOT :lol: