what size battery for 360 GLE

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what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by miami_B » 11 Nov 2009 06:37 pm

Eyup folks, ive had a 1986 340 for about 8 months now, got the diff welded up and ive had so much fun in it! i always keep an eye out on ebay for them so when i saw a 360GLE for right money i didn't think twice. its off the road at the moment but im getting it all prepped up and ready for an MOT.

ive had a bit of trouble starting it though, the battery it came with is only a 70amphour one and it appears to be too small for the holding bracket underneath it. what size battery is recommended for this model? it jumps starts easy enough so i figured it must just be because its too small? also when it was running it was at 15.2 on my mates voltmeter.

its 1984 and been stood for quite some time so there's obviously going to be some corrosion/wear and tear issues. Anything else i should look out for? ill get some pics of the pair of them up soon aswell :)

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Re: what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by nomead » 11 Nov 2009 07:49 pm

miami_B wrote: ive had a bit of trouble starting it though, the battery it came with is only a 70amphour one and it appears to be too small for the holding bracket underneath it. what size battery is recommended for this model? it jumps starts easy enough so i figured it must just be because its too small? also when it was running it was at 15.2 on my mates voltmeter.

its 1984 and been stood for quite some time so there's obviously going to be some corrosion/wear and tear issues. Anything else i should look out for? ill get some pics of the pair of them up soon aswell :)
From your description, you should remember that the electrics also corrode given enough time. So you should also check, preferably replace, the battery earth cable, the battery plus cable going to the starter motor (thick and heavy), and the plus cable between the alternator and battery. All these carry the most current in automotive electrics, and any bad cables or dodgy joints will mean trouble.

Also if it's been standing for a long long time, the battery may be completely dead and if it can't accept a charge the only solution may be to replace it.

I'm running a 55Ah battery on my 360GLT. Yes there's a lot of free space in the holding bracket. But battery technology has also slightly advanced in 25 years. What matters most is actually the cold cranking amps (CCA) rating in the battery. The amp-hour rating tells you how long you can go on cranking the starter if the engine doesn't want to start, or how long you can go on driving when the alternator stops working. The CCA rating tells how much current the battery can deliver in a cold environment. And compared to more modern car, these 300s don't have that much things that consume electricity.
some web page wrote: Cold Cranking Amps is a rating used in the battery industry to define a battery's ability to start an engine in cold temperatures. The rating is the number of amps a new, fully charged battery can deliver at 0° Fahrenheit for 30 seconds, while maintaining a voltage of at least 7.2 volts, for a 12 volt battery. The higher the CCA rating, the greater the starting power of the battery.
So, conversely, if the starter only takes, say, 100 amps, a higher CCA rating will mean that the voltage will drop less (due to less internal resistance in the battery). Which is a good thing.

Of course, a good battery isn't worth anything if the cables are corroded, green and manky. Also even a good battery will die very soon if the charging system (alternator) isn't working properly or if the charging voltage is too high.
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Re: what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by Ride_on » 11 Nov 2009 09:44 pm

Yes most are using a 55Ah size, which should fill out the bracket/base on a 360, however a small battery should not have any problem either. If you are jump starting to the battery terminals then its not likely to be wiring, in fact . If the voltage is 15V with the engine running then it should be charging, I can only think that it the battery is done and not holding charge. Batteries do go in many ways, sometime slowly, sometimes suddenly but they are service items with 5 - 10 years life, sometimes the simplest reason is the answer.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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Re: what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by miami_B » 12 Nov 2009 12:02 pm

Right ok thanks guys, ill try a 55ah battery and see how it goes then!

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Re: what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by nomead » 12 Nov 2009 05:55 pm

My 55Ah battery seems to be about 24 cm wide. And the frame has about 28 cm space. So in theory there's space for a 75 Ah battery meant for the D16 (diesel) version :D But as it's much more expensive, there's really no reason to do so.
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Re: what size battery for 360 GLE

Post by Ride_on » 15 Nov 2009 02:24 pm

Another thought occurred to me on this. It could also be a current drain which is discharging the battery slowly over time more than normal. Normally the 360 will drain only through the clock and maybe radio, and the batterys' own internal current leakage. It should last a few months at least, more modern cars tend to last less than that with active alarms etc.

It should be noticeable that the engine has a normal cranking rate after the engine has been running for a while (say 30 mins) but much less after an overnight rest, although cranking rate is also slower when cold (low viscosity oil is good for this, eg semi-synth). Note that a 5 or 10 minute drive will not charge the battery fully if it significantly discharged.
1980 345 DL_______1987 360 GLE (project car restored to GLT spec and B230FT'd)
1984 360 GLT______1987 360 GLT
1983 360 GLS______1989 360 GLE
1985 340 GL_______1986 340 1.4
1985 360 GLS______1995 940 SE 2.3 Turbo Estate (daily)
1987 340 GL 1.7

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