Clutch kit identity help.

[volvosneverdie]

Hi all, purchased this advertised as a 360 clutch kit.
Borg and Beck - part no: HK5064

Dont think it is though.

Anyone recognise it?

[trabitom99]

I got HK 5064 to correspond to LUK 622 0205 16 which is supposed to fit B19A and B200K 360s up to MY '84. There is a difference between "early" and "late" Volvo 360 clutch kits, something to do with narrower pressure plates or something?

Cheers

Tom

[volvosneverdie]

I got HK 5064 to correspond to LUK 622 0205 16 which is supposed to fit B19A and B200K 360s up to MY '84. There is a difference between "early" and "late" Volvo 360 clutch kits, something to do with narrower pressure plates or something?

Cheers

Tom

thanks very much Tom. it must be the later version ive seen before.

Well my 360 is late, so i guess its no good to me then.

[trabitom99]

Check out this too:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0589276810

THIS LISTING IS FOR - A CLUTCH KIT 215MM (PLEASE NOTE STOCK PHOTO) TO FIT-
VOLVO
343/ 345 DSL, GSL (ENG B19) 2000CC 09/80- 08/82
PART NO- HK5064

Cheers

Tom

[volvosneverdie]

Check out this too:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0589276810

THIS LISTING IS FOR - A CLUTCH KIT 215MM (PLEASE NOTE STOCK PHOTO) TO FIT-
VOLVO
343/ 345 DSL, GSL (ENG B19) 2000CC 09/80- 08/82
PART NO- HK5064

Cheers

Tom

yeah, that came up in a google search.
but 343/45s wernt B19s were they??
Thats what threw me.

[trabitom99]

Not in the UK they weren't, but the rest of Europe got 343/5 "S-versions" with a B19A engine and a 4spd box ...

Can you identify the part nos of the individual items? The release bearing should fit later models as well, maybe the clutch disc too ...

Cheers

Tom

[jtbo]

MY84, would be around time Renix ignition came along? Renix flywheels are bit different.

343/345 naming was changed here to 340 same time as 360 came and same time came new B200 motors with Renix I think, so there should not be pre MY84 B200K version, imo?

[trabitom99]

IIRC Renix was introduced to the '84 MY and B200s to the '85 MY, so my listing was wrong about pre '84 B200Ks ...

I think you've got a point about the different flywheel on non-Renix cars (no crank sensor). I've got a Volvo clutch kit at home which is for "B19A CH -810500 M45" V300s. 1984 MY (and the Renix cars) started with CH 810501.

Cheers

Tom

[foggyjames]

That pressure plate is for a 'flat' flywheel, rather than the later dished type. I'm not sure about 300s, but the familiar 'dished' flywheel came in for 240s mid-way through 1984 (1984.5MY, the Yanks call it) or so, so those dates look about right. The disc is probably the same as for a late car, but the PP is only good for a flat flywheel. I could potentially do with one of those, as I have a flat flywheel (off a Volvo Penta boat engine, as it happens!) which I might end up putting on the 343. I *might* have a PP for a dished flywheel to trade. Otherwise I'm sure I could sort out cash prize monies.

The difference in the PP is that the one for the flat one is much deeper, with the mating surface roughly in-line with the flange. The one for the dished flywheel has the mating surface quite a long way proud of the flange. I know that probably makes no sense at all...but if you saw the two flywheels and the two PPs together, it'd make perfect sense...

cheers

James

[trabitom99]

...but if you saw the two flywheels and the two PPs together, it'd make perfect sense...

From right to left:


B19A CH -810500 MT4 pressure plate (4spd B19s from '81 to '83)
B19A -'83 pressure plate (presumeably 5spd)
B200 pressure plate
note how all the clutch discs look the same.

Did '84 B19s have a dished flywheel as well? If so, the PP on the left would also fit a '84 on B19.

Cheers

Tom

[volvosneverdie]

The specific knowledge that resides inside v3mers never ceases to amaze me.
Well done Tom and James.
Helpfull facts dispensed again.

Foggy, you can have the lot toward that lump if you like.
If you think you'll get use of it.

[foggyjames]

I'm not exactly sure, Tom. There certainly were "plain" flywheels (i.e. with no timing marks), so it's possible.

I'd have said, off the top of my head, that the "4-spd" and "5-spd" clutches you have there actually are the same...?

I'm sure we can come to some arrangement involving beer / car delivery, Ben

cheers

James

[volvosneverdie]

I'm not exactly sure, Tom. There certainly were "plain" flywheels (i.e. with no timing marks), so it's possible.

I'd have said, off the top of my head, that the "4-spd" and "5-spd" clutches you have there actually are the same...?

I'm sure we can come to some arrangement involving beer / car delivery, Ben

cheers

James

coolio with the flow dude.

[volvodspec]

i just nozed over a piece of usefull information that makes a bit sence out of the 2 different pressureplates for the B19

with the introduction of the 5-speed M47R gearbox:
- for the MT5 models, the flywheel was made heavyer
- for the B19 MT5, the pressureplate is changed
- the clutchplate for the B19 MT5 remained the same

so the pressureplate for the MT5 is different from MT4, but i bet you can use the MT5 on a MT4 flywheel and vise-versa.