LOL, fair enough! That'd be quick! It was certainly easier with my big cramp, the pressure was eaily transferred, nice and steadily. We managed to overcome a few things at the weekend with the aid of my woodworking equipment, or tools I have! Seems like woodworking and mechanics go hand in hand.
Pete
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Well, finally got around to it after Andy's help a couple of months ago when we fitted the new clutch and it had a good service and took the Vario for it's MOT. It went through the MOT with no problems, the MOT station where I go have got used to me and my 300's! He was showing his younger colleague the way in which the vario works, and saying he wouldn't see many cars like that!
One thing that did concern me, was how there is not warning for the MOT testers about not reving the car in Park. I know Mac spoke to the VOSA, which they said may result in an advisory, sadly it doesn't appear to have done so. I explained the situation to my friendly MOT testers. They showed me their computer info and print out for the car, no mention of taking care with Park and revs. I stayed with the car and had explained already, but what if others don't? More burned out clutches in CVT's?
It really is a nice car to drive, very odd at first, but good fun. Suprisingly nippy, and due to the clever transmission, even at 70 mph, it will pull pretty quickly up to 80 if needed. I thought it might struggle at such speeds, but it managed very well, due to always being in the right gear. Junctions are a doddle, no pulling across, dropping gears before hand, or flailing for gears afterwards, point and stamp!
One thing I have noticed is the belts are slipping a little bit, probably due to a lack of use. When they'd dropped it into the rolling road slots for the MOT it slipped getting it back out in reverse, so he drove if forwards instead with a push. I've got used to the pulling away technique Will uses, by making the car engage and just start moving, then apply power, not just pushing the accelerator and going, as that seems to put more stress on the belts and make them want to slip.
One thing that worries me a little, is with the choke out, the revs are higher than the normal engagement of the drive. So, although it doesn't try and pull away, you can feel it dragging and trying to. What is the best thing to do? I've been putting it into Neutral when sat at junctions if I have to wait long, rather than sitting with my foot on the brake to stop it creeping.
Pete
One thing that did concern me, was how there is not warning for the MOT testers about not reving the car in Park. I know Mac spoke to the VOSA, which they said may result in an advisory, sadly it doesn't appear to have done so. I explained the situation to my friendly MOT testers. They showed me their computer info and print out for the car, no mention of taking care with Park and revs. I stayed with the car and had explained already, but what if others don't? More burned out clutches in CVT's?
It really is a nice car to drive, very odd at first, but good fun. Suprisingly nippy, and due to the clever transmission, even at 70 mph, it will pull pretty quickly up to 80 if needed. I thought it might struggle at such speeds, but it managed very well, due to always being in the right gear. Junctions are a doddle, no pulling across, dropping gears before hand, or flailing for gears afterwards, point and stamp!
One thing I have noticed is the belts are slipping a little bit, probably due to a lack of use. When they'd dropped it into the rolling road slots for the MOT it slipped getting it back out in reverse, so he drove if forwards instead with a push. I've got used to the pulling away technique Will uses, by making the car engage and just start moving, then apply power, not just pushing the accelerator and going, as that seems to put more stress on the belts and make them want to slip.
One thing that worries me a little, is with the choke out, the revs are higher than the normal engagement of the drive. So, although it doesn't try and pull away, you can feel it dragging and trying to. What is the best thing to do? I've been putting it into Neutral when sat at junctions if I have to wait long, rather than sitting with my foot on the brake to stop it creeping.
Pete
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This is going to sound really stupid Pete, but 1.4s will luckily run with extremely small amounts of choke, so really you've just got to be really brave and shovel in the thing as much as you can. When I saw Aymat start and move his vario, he let it idle for about a minute with the choke out making it idle reasonably fast and then put it in again until the revs were particularly low.
I remember the choke throttle stop setting is set extremely low on that car anyway, much lower than on our 1.4 manual, so I don't think there's much room for adjustment there.
I remember when we serviced your transmission, we saw a small amount of surface rust on the cones of the units. I suppose that could cause a bit of belt slippage, but all in all its a lovely car and having compared it to Aymat's car we saw last weekend in Belgium, I would say all the mechanisms are working great
I remember the choke throttle stop setting is set extremely low on that car anyway, much lower than on our 1.4 manual, so I don't think there's much room for adjustment there.
I remember when we serviced your transmission, we saw a small amount of surface rust on the cones of the units. I suppose that could cause a bit of belt slippage, but all in all its a lovely car and having compared it to Aymat's car we saw last weekend in Belgium, I would say all the mechanisms are working great
hi guys!
Im watching this post with great interest having a few CVTs myself.
Pete, did you manage to swap the Daf belts for the 340 ones?
The guys on dafownerclub.co.uk are a nice bunch but the forum traffic is a bit slow. Alternatively, if they are defo daf belts then dafclub.nl has a very active forum
if however, they are volvo 66 belts ( which Im still trying to confirm 100% if the 66 and 33 share tranmission - so far I know the diff is different but they may share some other components ) and if you dont want them, I would be more than delighted to buy them from you
hope the CVT is running well.
Ive only had the 66s and 343 on private ground and not in the road. my dad has driven a few 66s on the road. Ive driven a 440 transmatic CVT and it is quite intuative - well designed and easy to get used to. The Ford/Fiat CVT system ( in the fiesta and escort ) is well... rough judderly and completely unpredictable kinda describe those!!!
Im trying to learn as much as pos about CVTs as they are unusual and orig!!
hope you enjoy the cvt!!
all the best
Shimon
Im watching this post with great interest having a few CVTs myself.
Pete, did you manage to swap the Daf belts for the 340 ones?
The guys on dafownerclub.co.uk are a nice bunch but the forum traffic is a bit slow. Alternatively, if they are defo daf belts then dafclub.nl has a very active forum
if however, they are volvo 66 belts ( which Im still trying to confirm 100% if the 66 and 33 share tranmission - so far I know the diff is different but they may share some other components ) and if you dont want them, I would be more than delighted to buy them from you
hope the CVT is running well.
Ive only had the 66s and 343 on private ground and not in the road. my dad has driven a few 66s on the road. Ive driven a 440 transmatic CVT and it is quite intuative - well designed and easy to get used to. The Ford/Fiat CVT system ( in the fiesta and escort ) is well... rough judderly and completely unpredictable kinda describe those!!!
Im trying to learn as much as pos about CVTs as they are unusual and orig!!
hope you enjoy the cvt!!
all the best
Shimon
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Hi Shimon, I don't think they'll be of any use to you sadly, as from Wouters info, the Daf 66 and 300 share the same belts, the ones I have are for a Daf 33. The full code, A528886 DAF 25. And as Wouter descibed, thats the smallest car range, runs from the first daf 600 (1958/59) to the DAF 33 (up to 1974, alongside the larger 2- and 4 cilinder versions).
So, thanks for the links to the Daf clubs from you and Wouter, I'll look into them soon.
THe CVT is great fun and I'm looking forward to driving it more, and being such low mileage drives like new!
And Andy, thanks for confirming my thoughts, I've been putting the choke in as much as I dared, and it still seemed to be running ok, start up, let it warm up for a minute, then knock the choke in a bit and it wouldn't drag so badly then. I didn't want to wear anything prematurely.
Pete
So, thanks for the links to the Daf clubs from you and Wouter, I'll look into them soon.
THe CVT is great fun and I'm looking forward to driving it more, and being such low mileage drives like new!
And Andy, thanks for confirming my thoughts, I've been putting the choke in as much as I dared, and it still seemed to be running ok, start up, let it warm up for a minute, then knock the choke in a bit and it wouldn't drag so badly then. I didn't want to wear anything prematurely.
Pete
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hi guys
I've not had a reason to pull apart my 340 or 66 clutch but as they use standard friction plates are they the same as the manuals?
Also, re choke - sitting in neutral warming the engine up shouldnt be a problem but I understand what you mean about driving with the choke out - if the idle is higher than the clutch engagement then yes in drive then even when you slow down the clutch wont disengage and you'll have an auto 'creep' like effect as you're off the gas but the car still moves. in these situations, holding the brake or handbrake isnt appreciated by the CVT!
I've never had a 340 CVT as a daily driver but will hopefully be driving a 440 CVT in the near future... rather different to drive though!
hope you enjoy the CVT!
S
I've not had a reason to pull apart my 340 or 66 clutch but as they use standard friction plates are they the same as the manuals?
Also, re choke - sitting in neutral warming the engine up shouldnt be a problem but I understand what you mean about driving with the choke out - if the idle is higher than the clutch engagement then yes in drive then even when you slow down the clutch wont disengage and you'll have an auto 'creep' like effect as you're off the gas but the car still moves. in these situations, holding the brake or handbrake isnt appreciated by the CVT!
I've never had a 340 CVT as a daily driver but will hopefully be driving a 440 CVT in the near future... rather different to drive though!
hope you enjoy the CVT!
S
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the friction plate is slightly different from the manual version (something to do with the springs in the center)
but the working principle is exactly the same. its just a friction plate..
the clutch plate itself works totally different.
PS the volvo 440 CVT is to be avoided big time...
(very unreliable and total-loss after transmission failure)
if you insist on driving one, keep your right foot as steady as possible, sudden power up/down gives the transmission housing impulse shocks which often lead to cracks in the housing, thereafter oil loss and total failure.
the steel belt works fine but its the box around it thats made too weak.
but the working principle is exactly the same. its just a friction plate..
the clutch plate itself works totally different.
PS the volvo 440 CVT is to be avoided big time...
(very unreliable and total-loss after transmission failure)
if you insist on driving one, keep your right foot as steady as possible, sudden power up/down gives the transmission housing impulse shocks which often lead to cracks in the housing, thereafter oil loss and total failure.
the steel belt works fine but its the box around it thats made too weak.