What have people that do drifting or track days done to their cars to combat overheating brakes?
Mine get a little hot just coming down the local hills.
(cameraphone doesn't like nightime shots, the discs was more of an orange colour, the bright spot is flame from the pads.)
The current bendix pads offer reasonable stopping even when this hot, and new fluid has cured the sponginess, but i would like it to be better.
I've heard you might be able to get decent EBC pads that are made to cope with the high heat, and has anyone tried to install some ducting somehow? what about removing the plates behind the discs?
I cooked my brakes with rallying, but that was mainly down to bad technique. I was using the brakes like you would on a normal drive, not hitting them hard for a short time at the last minute. Now I'm being harse whilst rallying, I never overheat the brakes.
I know some of the 360 cup guys are running stock brakes for track, it really mostly is about technique. Other than than, try running some more open alloys to help the cause. My GLT did have vented discs, but I never found what they were from, altough I do have a lead I'm follwing at the moment!
A friend of me drives the V360cup in holland. He reccomends ferodo 2500 for street use. (He says there are no better for original v300!) They costs 100 euro.
The ferodo's are good, cant be bad if a lot of the cup drivers use them (I have a set waiting for my trackcar as well).
I have experience with the Mintex 1144 pads, they are excellent in my opinion, brake well under all circumstances (even cold). I also out-braked a lot of cars running ds2500 pads using mintex, but I cant jump to conclusions, because some of those people may just not know how to drive.
If you want to keep the brakes cooler you can also run some airducts (I used vacuum cleaner tubing) to the brakes and point them at your caliper or disc, this helps stock brakepads hold out much longer.
In your case I'd just get mintex or ferodo, it will be enough I think.
I've never heard of mintex, however a quick google search show them to be affiliated with bendix in some way, from what i can see though the sell higher grade pads, I do know some local shops sell ferodo though, so i'll see if i can find any of them forst though, anyone know part numbers?
Everyone seems to have forgotten to ask which back plate you have. The arly back plates did not have vents - if you have them change them for the vented ones.
Are your discs and pads in good condton. Adisc that has groves worn into it has lower efficiancy and will generate more heat for the same braking effort. Also are the back brakes in good condtion? Again if the effort is low on the rear you are making the front do more work.
I have totaly stock brakes and have no problems even with hard driving.
M1144s are good, although I managed to cook a set a couple of years ago which caused some fade. However I reckon with some open alloys (standard mk3 GLT wheels are pretty bad at letting heat escape, but looks like you're sorted on that front), decent discs (just new standard ones, or possibly some grooved/drilled ones - check out www.buypartsby.co.uk - £60 a pair), M1144s and dot 4/5.1 fluid your brakes should be greatly improved.
I'm doing this, plus a new mater cylinder, new shoes, new wheel cylinders, new drums and air ducts for the front. Will hopefully lead to a great improvement. So far just using mk2 GLT alloys and removing the fogs to let more air get to the brakes seems to have helped a lot.
Ages ago I also started looking into some vented discs to use, and I've got a set in the garage which look good on paper, just gotta find time to give them a try.
Carl
Rover SD1 Vitesse (and no Volvos )
But previously:
1988 Volvo 360GLT
1988 Volvo 360GLT
1984 Volvo 340DL www.carlgibbs.com/gallery
The backing plates are solid, no slots at all, I was just thinking of removing them alltogether, can't really see the harm in doing it? Discs are pretty evenly worn and not too thin, surprisngly good for a car this age.
Frits wrote:A friend of me drives the V360cup in holland. He reccomends ferodo 2500 for street use. (He says there are no better for original v300!) They costs 100 euro.
dalahare wrote:The backing plates are solid, no slots at all, I was just thinking of removing them alltogether, can't really see the harm in doing it? Discs are pretty evenly worn and not too thin, surprisngly good for a car this age.
I have no these anymore, they have rusted away, I got complaints of them in MOT but I guess it is different in your country.