Steering rack

Post by **filthyjohn** » 02 Nov 2006 04:06 pm

Is there any unforseen, silly reason why a non-PAS rack won't bolt straight in place of my PAS one? Mine whines and creaks, and it's had a couple of hard knocks, so I thought I'd replace it, after which it'd be free with all ancillaries to anyone who wants it.
I've decided I want manual steering because I assume it's less work to put in, and since I'm not a wussy single mother, I have no need for its puny power assistance

Plus it'll save about 0.75Bhp

Cheers for any help.

Post by **pettaw** » 02 Nov 2006 04:29 pm

No reason, you'll need the lower half of the steering column too though. The exhaust downpipe for a PAS is different, but will work fine with a non-PAS car.

Post by **filthyjohn** » 02 Nov 2006 04:31 pm

Cheers, that's what I thought. That was another reason, more space for exhaust routing if a turbo was to politely approach my car, introduce itself and buy it a drink.

Post by **classicswede** » 02 Nov 2006 10:58 pm

If anyone is interested there is a recon power rack of ebay

Post by **jimf671** » 14 Dec 2006 01:53 am

And the power rack has a different ratio. If you have the right tyres (and have increased overall offset, and maybe reduced castor) the power rack, without the power, is a way of getting quicker steering with plenty of feel.

Post by **foggyjames** » 15 Dec 2006 09:33 pm

The man makes a good point...and loves to bump old threads! There's quite a big difference in overall handling feel thanks to the 'quicker' rack.

cheers

James

Post by **A M R** » 15 Dec 2006 11:23 pm

hmmm might have to have this off you when i get my glt...

or is it possible to buy this anywhere else?

Post by **pettaw** » 16 Dec 2006 12:50 am

not so sure that a PAS rack without pressure in it would perform the same as a non-PAS rack, just because all the valving etc is still there, and IMO would make it feel weird.

Agreed on the gearing though, PAS has almost a turn less lock to lock with the same steering movement.

Caster is the same on PAS and non-PAS cars, cos the PAS system was really an afterthought, rather than designed into the entire suspension system.

Post by **foggyjames** » 16 Dec 2006 02:06 am

The yanks who remove PAS from 240s the lazy way loop a hose between the two point which usually have hoses connected which 'leave the area' (to the reservoir and from the pump, respectively). It supposedly works...

cheers

James

Website · Post by **antiekeradio** » 18 Dec 2006 01:58 pm

yep, all you do in that case is transfer the fluid from one side of the piston to the other. same effect as a hole in the piston.

Post by **jimf671** » 23 Dec 2006 09:20 pm

The bypass hose is the usual way of dealing with this. I havent actual seen one on a 360 but most seem to work ok this way. As long as there is something in there to lubricate it and no hydraulic lock it should work.