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Post by foggyjames » 14 Jun 2007 06:49 pm

volvorsport wrote:i can bring the diff to james , for some photographic evidence , at this houswarmin/pre BKV / ryan supplies the beer party at the weekend .
It's a plan...especially the part about Ryan buying the beer :)

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Post by Damir130 » 15 Jun 2007 09:41 am

I believe I have seen pictures floating around the net (finnish forums?) where they showed a modified v300 casing with stock 240 clutch type LSD. Biggest problem was fitting the diff inside the casing, the bolts keeping the diff together were ground down and a few mm's were taken out of the casing itself. No modifications to the bearings etc etc.
But that was just my interpretation of what was going on. I don't speak finnish, so I might be wrong. Maybe someone that does could do a search for LSD on the volvo300power forums?
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Post by Tourinki » 15 Jun 2007 01:17 pm

Damir130: Do you mean these pictures?
240 diff in 300
Apparently only thing to do is to grind some metal off screws and off the casing. Where grinding is needed can be seen in two of those pictures. They aare highlighted by red marker.
If Fuse were here he could tell more about that.

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Post by foggyjames » 15 Jun 2007 06:04 pm

Three thoughts....
1) Awesome
2) Stock 240 LSDs aren't too strong, but I bet a nice strong one from the US would fit, if you can slip a Dana 30 diff in there.
3) I don't fancy having to get those skimmed bolts undone...could be a brown pant moment sm56

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Post by volvorsport » 15 Jun 2007 06:55 pm

that looks a lot narrower than the 1041 locker .

Question - do the 300 output shafts fit in the 200 diff with no mods ?

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Post by foggyjames » 15 Jun 2007 10:39 pm

Time for a quick "compare and contrast"?

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Post by jtbo » 16 Jun 2007 09:04 am

As original LSD is made by HÖR Technologies, I would believe they may done diff too.

Maybe it was this one (they do make Formula 3 car gearboxes today):
http://www.hoer-technologie.de/wer_ist.html

Don't know if they have any info or will to share it.
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Post by foggyjames » 16 Jun 2007 10:28 am

Yes, it's the same HOR...they made some of the competition parts too. I think someone has been in contact with them, and they don't have any of it anymore.

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Post by alistairolsen » 10 Sep 2007 11:00 pm

so no success?

DO quaiffe do an ATB?

Does anyone do a plate and clutch locker?

No more gen on alternative fits?

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Post by foggyjames » 11 Sep 2007 01:05 am

To answer your questions in order...

Yes, expensive
Yes, expensive
No

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Post by alistairolsen » 11 Sep 2007 09:59 pm

LOL! Most manufacturers std diffs are shocking anyway, cossie LSDs are VERY mild. Ive kinda come to accept the decent lockers are 500 quid in the fwd scene, difference is they come up secondhand every now and again on the vauxhall scene. I precursor to finding a secondhand one is finding some facet of the volvo scene that isnt too tight to buy a new one at some point tho :P

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Post by foggyjames » 11 Sep 2007 10:39 pm

Totally with you on that - the stock Volvo ones in the larger cars (wghich don't fit anyway) seem to be pants.

£500 would buy one, sure. I may well fork out once I have the turbo lump in.

The trouble is, £500 buys just about as nice a 300 as you could ask for, and it's double what most people would get for their cars. Straw poll of how many people here have £500 to spend on an LSD.....I guess it's the same result as how many already have an LSD ;) Almost everyone here is either a student, or has too many other responsibilities. For example, I bought a house earlier this year, and now it needs a new heating system....such is life. £500 buys a lot in the 300 series world, and an LSD ain't a lot, in the grand scheme of things.

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Post by meintag » 11 Sep 2007 10:59 pm

James, IMO, always you spend money in a old tin bath like ours ( or the VWs I mess with or whatever old and cheap car ) you are throwing it away. Isn't a rational decission ! A rational decision would be to save money for buy a modern TDI per example, not to spend 900EUR in a new set of wheels for our cars...

I'll speak about VW world that is what I know and live here everyday:

A friend just bought a damaged R32 ( 3000EUR ) to swap the engine to his old-1200EUR-Golf Mk2. Another mate spent 1500EUR in a Leon Cupra R engine for his old-1500EUR-G60 and lots of examples like those. I love cool wheels, and I spent a lot of money in a set of BBS RS for my Golf per example. The wheels I've in the 360 worth about 3 times the car value, but isn't matters !!

About 700-800EUR is a good price for a LSD I think, I'm working&studying, but I would spend that money in a decent LSD to ditch the welded one ! It's all about passion for the cars ! hehe

What a brick I wrote !! Sorry !! :lol:

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Post by alistairolsen » 11 Sep 2007 11:13 pm

Im at uni, own a flat etc, and am financially prevented from affording expensive cars. Ive had a lot fo fun in a 1600 16v nova I built, and then in a 2.0 16v corsa I built for £600 quid. Im intending doing a quick 360 next on a budget, but sadly I reckon 250bhp and no lsd isnt going to fast, or fun, or safe lol

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Post by foggyjames » 11 Sep 2007 11:44 pm

I'm not saying I'm not willing to spend the money...just that most people around here aren't, and I don't blame them. The trouble is that beyond a point, you need the right components, and they're the same price whether we're talking about a car which costs £50 or £50k.

The other problem is that you can have almost as much fun for a LOT less money. My housemate's 740 is slower than when we started, and he's probably sunk £2500 into it...but now it has all the supporting work for a long life and lots of power....but as things stand today, it was faster with a few quick, cheap, and 'dirty' mods.

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