Where will your 300 be in ten years time?

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Post by SteveP » 17 Aug 2007 01:45 pm

Ali wrote:I want something that does the skidding aswell as being a big pimp comfort wagon. Therefore its 940 or move onto something else... more than likely Nissan or Toyota
940 doesn't do a bad job... lots of things available for when you get bored of the soggy suspension... got mine running 10psi now and it goes alright :D
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Post by V6 Man » 17 Aug 2007 04:48 pm

The main problem is that the last of the proper Volvos is now 9 years old. Even if Volvo were to revert to RWD tomorrow it'd be about another 9 years befoe they were cheap enough for us 'no I'm not going to buy a car on finance' brigade to afford them. By that time the last of the 900's will be 18 years old and starting to need large sums of money thrown at them.

With regards to the everyday car I'll probably be looking for a replacement for my 960 in a couple of years, and most likely it'll get replaced with a S/V90. I'll them have to run that forever or succumb to the evils of FWD or buy German in order to have a large, luxurious, comfortable, reliable family car with a bit of poke and be RWD.

I don't mind an old (by that I mean over 15) car as a 'fun' car, but I'm getting to an age where I have family responsibilities and want some luxury whilst still retaining decent handling. Unfortunately Volvo don't cater for me anymore (ok the P1 S/V70's do handle well even if the are FWD), but the recent batch of releases just doesn't float my boat at all.

It looks like my future is a RWD Volvo for fun and a Honda Accord for daily use (If I have to go FWD it might as well be cheap to run and reliable).

Hmmm, suicide is looking tempting!!!
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Post by Tourinki » 17 Aug 2007 05:14 pm

Who knows but i'd like to think that i still own that older 360 what i have now. But days of the newer one are going to end in few years time. Sad but true because it's a great car to drive but i am restoring that older one and i am taking all accesories off the newer one and putting them in the older one.
Today i saw nice looking 340 on sale and i thought that would be a great replacement for my moms Corolla.

As a daily drive Scorpio Cosworth, Merc 190E with 3 liter turbocharged diesel engine or 2, 7, 9 series estate Volvo. With highest spec accesories as possible ie. leather seats front seats adjusted electrically. air conditioning etc.

I truly hope that i will find a way to keep atleast one 300 series Volvo.

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Post by petefarrell360 » 17 Aug 2007 08:17 pm

I meant to say that I expect any car that I buy to be older rather than be newer, so I'd be looking to buy a real classic or something pretty simple and easy to work on. One of my main wishes is to own an Amazon. I'm hoping that if I ever get the time, I'll be able to restore one of my Dad's 123 GT's and claim it that way! As Dai quite rightly points out, so much Amazon kit is availble off the shelf in some form or another. It won't be cheap, but at least the option is there.

I've just purchased a 1998 LDV Convoy for work, the Vauxhall Midi just wasn't tall enough, and I was going to do my back in soon lifting stuff in and out. I could go out tomorrow and get a brand new van, but....... most are getting a bit too flashy and aren't quite so practical and are IMO well over priced, then the servicing etc would have to be done by someone else at great cost due to all the technowizardry! Instead I've got a 2.5 TD engine from a common transit, which ok, it's got it's fair share of electrics, but at least most of it is easily serviceable. I'm now hoping that this van will last me quite sometime, as I've just got no interest in anything too new.

If I'm paranoid about parking a 1989 Volvo in a carpark through the fear of some chump opening a door onto it, running into it or damaging it in anyway, what would I be like with something that is worth way more, and is perfect from new when I get it?

If I was given the choice between a brand new Volvo and mine, mine would still win everytime. However, I'd take the new one, sell it, then buy a few 300's and run them forever on the money!

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Post by retrocool73 » 17 Aug 2007 10:07 pm

I can honestly see myself still driving the cars I have now more or less. My daily drive is a BMW 520i SE (E34, 1992) which does everything I would ask of a car, and is well maintained and looked after, I'll hopefully have my 340's and other classics, on muych the same basis I have now - used when I want, but keep the mileage down, and garaged, keep the collection well preserved.

That is of course, we horrible carbon-footprint bastards are still allowed to do such things as drive these things.

(I might emigrate and take em with me....)

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Post by SoLaMaNdA » 17 Aug 2007 11:01 pm

I've moved away from cars and can't see myself going back inside the next 10 years. I use a diesel transit running veg oil for moving stuff about and a motorbike to commute. Petrol is expensive and is only going to cost alot more in 10 years.

Vegetable oil shouldn't change in price much over a decade!

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Post by MJ » 17 Aug 2007 11:14 pm

10 years huh, well hopefully the 340 will still be running, and will be hitting the 50k mark at the current rate :? Other than rust or accident there's no reason why she won't be still in the family, although I'd like her to be summer only in the future. I think the parents are starting to think about getting something newer and easier to drive, so maybe the 850 will be leaving, but only after I've finished uni, she's a great load lugger.

I worry about the 340 far too much, so I want a daily driver I don't need to worry about as much, so I can imagine having an old Toyota Hilux, or Land Rover Defender in 10 years time for most stuff, and for trailering the 340 occasionally :P

Another 300 would be great. One that I didn't have to worry about as much as the 340, and could be modded. Better suspension, more power etc. A fun car.

It'd be nice to have something else newer as well, although that'd probably be one too many cars. Depending on what the future brings, a sensible but fast saloon may be in order. BMW 3 or 5 maybe, or a Vauxhall Monaro...

Time will tell...
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Post by mickt » 18 Aug 2007 12:20 am

Hi

I get my hands less dirty now than when I started 300s nine years ago Now on my 5th one they are so reliable . I first met one when on a day I had scapped an old Austin Metro I happened upon an acquaintance who upon hearing my sad news said oh we have a car for sale Well it was a model I had hardly heard of . I needed to know its engine size ...all I needed to know was nothing compared with actually driving the thing , which I only achieved by managing to sort out all on my own an air leak inthe inlet manifold (that is the dirty hands)
I liked it it was unusual converted to goods carrying utility quickly and somehow suited this out of city location in Buckinghamshire countryside with its new wide roads and no kerb parking.I have nearly lost the skill of parallel parking despite being the best car for turning circle and view all round
As for replacing it do I need a car at all I ask All the unusual FWD card are so unloved I would have to go for a Mits Carisma same Holland made

I dont think there are any more on the horizon I dont want a bigger volvo
The 300 is a good car to drive . In the Gaydon Museum there is cross section through the front section of an Issigonis Mini a truly amazing attachment of machine to body but to try a 300 unforgettable

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Post by Chris_C » 18 Aug 2007 01:54 am

V6 Man wrote:I don't mind an old (by that I mean over 15) car as a 'fun' car, but I'm getting to an age where I have family responsibilities and want some luxury whilst still retaining decent handling.
As much as I love taking the mick at any given opportunity grandad... this question seriously made me think abou that. I came to the conclusion that the EFI on the tubby will be more reliable than carbs, and nothing on the caris any different to modern stuff, as long as it is in check. Even modern cars need gearbox oil checking ever 5 years or so.

So... as I don't have to be responsible yet... I need to fit something rediculous to the tubby engine, just to make it unreliable. T3 and Eaton M46, cossie injectors, and magic the K series VVT head on the top for me then, before I have to be good :D :lol:
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Post by ajdubas » 18 Aug 2007 11:04 am

Chris_C wrote:So... as I don't have to be responsible yet... I need to fit something rediculous to the tubby engine, just to make it unreliable. T3 and Eaton M46, cossie injectors, and magic the K series VVT head on the top for me then, before I have to be good :D :lol:
and you never know, in 10 years, you may have finally finished the tubby :P

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Post by jtbo » 18 Aug 2007 04:22 pm

I will be driving 940 or some beemer with big diesel engine, 360 will be used on track probably. Could be that I would have few other cars too, maybe few 300 series cars in garage, but who knows as in life nothing is certain, how things look now can be very different in future.
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Post by dalahare » 18 Aug 2007 04:59 pm

I bought the volvo 360 as it was the only cheap rear drive hatch i could find, in ten+ years time i might upgrade to a 1 series BMW. 8)

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Post by jtbo » 18 Aug 2007 05:45 pm

dalahare wrote:I bought the volvo 360 as it was the only cheap rear drive hatch i could find, in ten+ years time i might upgrade to a 1 series BMW. 8)
1 series is practically smaller than Volvo from inside, there is no boot space or rear seat that would be usable by any adult person, that is something that id caught me by surprise.
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Post by meintag » 18 Aug 2007 09:23 pm

I bought the 360 only because it was a really low budget and looks good to learn drifting. But driving it more and more I'm falling in love with... The feeling driving it is awesome, how is balanced, the steering feel... All

Now I want to conserve and evolve it for a long time... The ' goes like a BMW, handles like a Porsche and stops like a Volvo' advertisement is true !!! Great surprise... :wink:

Regardsss !

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Post by petefarrell360 » 19 Aug 2007 12:58 am

I was thinking about it again today, such a good topic Dai. One thing that really gets me is the gadgets that try to save time or effort, the thinking for you type of things, such as, rain sensing windscreen wipers. They would annoy the hell out of me, I control when the wipers work, no one or anything else! On the 300 it actually annoys me a little bit if you use the screenwash too much and the headlight wipers continue to swipe in the dark, as I can see them working, but often I don't want or need them but cannot control them!

You get traction control, ABS, and all other manner of 'safety' devices. In a situation I want to be the person who controls what goes on, not some geric computer that cannot judge the situation for what it is and under the circumstances. Yes if programmed right computers will have better reaction times etc than a human and won't panic, but if the situation is wrong for their programmed command, it could end in tears!

The classic Merc advertising gizmo that would stop the car from crashing into a parked car in fog,......... they forgot to turn it on, the test driver smashes into the parked car infront of all the press! Oh dear......... human error took over there, but become too dependent upon gadgets and computers and the real skills needed for when they fail won't be there!

How many people could actually stop a car without a major panic if the brakes failled? Most would keep jabbing the brake pedal and then just look blank and panic until they crash! I think it was on Britains Worst Driver, they had a controlled area where they simulated brake failure. They were utterly useless.

I like simple mechanical operation where it is vital. For starters it's easier to fix normally, and easier to detect a problem, wear will show, sudden computer failure won't have a build up or any warning. Don't get me wrong. I'm not afraid of computers etc, I love my gadgets, but when it comes to driving, I like to be responsible for everything that's happening. If something tries to make a decision for me that I don't like, or I may not agree with, it will annoy me! So modern cars are not for me if they've too much of that gadgetry!

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