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Ok, it's been about a month since, but I thought I'd mention a little trip I had to Glasgow to collect a car with a friend.

Here she is, a beautiful A series manta from 1975.

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We went straight after I finished work at 3p.m on a wednesday afternoon. Straight up to glasgow with no 360-related problems at all (wind noise notwithstanding). All was going great and we got to the guy's house before dusk. £1100 changed hands and off we headed in a better-than-average condition piece of euro-muscle, everybody happy. I rode shotgun in the manta to advise on the route and so my mate would have the benefit of my 'technical experience' (pfft), while a 3rd mate drove the 360.
Sound too easy? Well that soon changed. After stopping to put some juice in the manta, the fuel gauge lost illumination and pointed towards empty. The temperature gauge is on the same clock, so we thought it only natural that it had stopped working, probably just a loose earth or something. Idiots.
So it came time to tackle the cheviot hills on the border. We were running late due to some very dodgy map reading, it was around midnight by this point. Not long after crossing the border into England, the fuel and temp gauge started working again. "ooh look the clocks are working again", "oh yeah the temperature gauge is back to life". A pause. "Oh SH!T, look where it's pointing!".
It was off the top of the red bit. The next safe place to stop was a layby after 2-3minutes of agony. Belching black smoke and a terrible stink, we ground to a halt. We were miles from home and in the middle of nowhere. Thank god for the AA, who got a tow truck to us from somewhere near Newcastle airport. Anyway by the time it arrived, dropped us off at my lockup in Sunderland, and I'd dropped everyone off and got to bed, it was 4a.m. and I had to be up at 5.30 to get ready for work :shock:

The moral of the story is: If, like me, you have a perfectly reliable tow car and trailer, don't mess about trying to drive home in 32 year old classic cars of unknown condition :lol:

Anyway, we all appreciate a classic, so here are some pictures of the beast, which has been forced into project status earlier than expected thanks to the engine failure.

Cavalier rims, undecided whether they're better than the wolfrace alloys that were on:
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Empty engine bay, cam-in-block 1900 has been ditched:
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To make way for a C20XE:
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With R1 carbs, dizzyless ignition with megajolt and Ford coil pack:
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And a Getrag gearbox from a manta B 1.8 GTE:
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The whole thing slots together like bloody meccano, the only hard part of the conversion is finding a good A series shell :lol:
The whole project should come in at under £2500, excluding the bodywork that will need doing as that's common to all mantas! More pictures to follow of the worst bits, including what we found under the vinyl roof...
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Post by Chris_C »

Awesome mate! I love mantas... really wish my mate wasn't breaking his. Did look to see if I had anywhere to put it, but I really don't. Have fun ;)

EDIT: Old skool alloys ftw ;)
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Beautiful car, and awesome work you're doing on it. I'm with Chris - old school rims look the best by far! That's going to be a lovely ride.

BTW - wind noise in your '60 - get new door seals!
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Join the club. I bought few months ago a 1975 Ford Granada Coupe with 2,8 V6 engine. Only gauge which worked was fuel gauge, so no speedo, it doesn't have a rev gauge and no temp gauge. And exhaust was very rusty. 480km to home and first it decided to not idle properly. about 30-50km later prop shaft fell off. So when i tried to stop safely to the side of road. I didn't manage to stop it before juction so over that and it stopped to dip after that junction. And i was on the hard shoulder before i hit that juction. So result is oil sump has a dent, destroyed exhaust and one prop shaft hanging between exhaust pipes, it fell of at the gearbox end and thank god diff didn't break. And that car was brought home by tow truck. And i can tell that it isn't cheap to transport a car 150km on tow truck.

And my 360 didn't miss a beat.

And what i am trying to say here is don't buy old cars because they are going to be expensive to maintain.
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Post by Carl »

Good man, I've got a lot of time for Mantas! I used to have 2.0 GTE and loved it. I'd like another one day either with a 2.4 Frontera engine on big carbs (Manta 400 stylee) or with a v8 :twisted:

Stick with the old rims, they suit the car much better!
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Post by trabitom99 »

Great car! Hope your experience doesn't put you off "old & interesting" cars! Look forward to see more from it.

70's cars with 70's alloys rock :-)

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Post by foggyjames »

Awesome car! Totally love the first generation Manta. It's the bodyshell this piece of hotness is based on...

http://www.hilmersson-racing.com

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The hilmersson manta is the best car in the world. And it combines the sexiest euro bodyshell ever with a volvo engine. I want one.
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Looks good! I think everybody likes this.. It's just love for old cars, volvo or vauxhal or else.
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Post by fume »

Nice! I don't know whats better looking the manta or the motor thats going in it. I am normally an originality freak but thats going to be some car.
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foggyjames wrote:It's the bodyshell this piece of hotness is based on...

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That has to be one of the most beautiful machines I have ever seen...
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trabitom99 wrote:Great car! Hope your experience doesn't put you off "old & interesting" cars! Look forward to see more from it.
You could say that it's had rather the opposite effect mate.
OOOOPS:
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I've really got my work cut out now.
More about the manta when it returns from the bodyshop shortly...
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Post by foggyjames »

Haha, excellent! :-D We've got a real Volvo nut on our hands now...good on you ;)

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Post by sven360 »

Nice one John-busy little beaver aren't ya.

What ya doin' with the Amazon-that'll take more than an XE to get that baby goin.
Went to see one for historic rallying-not a cheapy either-pedestrian wasn't the word-ya got a calander for the 0-60 not a clock :wink:
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Frits wrote:Looks good! I think everybody likes this.. It's just love for old cars, volvo or vauxhal or else.
I agree totally,but it's more than just that they're old cars its cos they're RWD.
FWD was designed for 2 purposes-

1] you can shoehorn more people in a given space
2] the "authorities" realised most people can't drive for $hit so Fwd is inherently safer -go to fast into corner-understeer-natural reaction is to lift-status quo is restored as ya shopping trolley scrabbles round.
Try lifting mid corner when the back steps out and we've got a fishy moment with a bit of pendulum thrown in for good measure.

I guess what these drunken ramblings mean is an old car is more of a drivers car.
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