Quick Question Newbbbb

Post by **skipp123** » 12 Dec 2008 05:06 pm

dont flame me but can you buy a std volvo 360 2.0ltr and strap the 940 turbo manifold, turbo and loom to it?

what management would be upto the job and injectors wise would the std 940 fuel rail and injectors go stright on the side of the std 2.0 360 block

sorry for the newb questions

Post by **volvosneverdie** » 12 Dec 2008 05:18 pm

I'd pay ten pound to watch the results man.
thats for sure.

Post by **filthyjohn** » 12 Dec 2008 05:20 pm

THEN SEE THEM HERE:

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... highlight=

Long thread but it covers everything. That car's for sale again if you fancy a shortcut to the end result.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0327857278

Post by **volvosneverdie** » 12 Dec 2008 05:31 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh., yeah.
I saw it up on ebay again and didnt even rgister the '940 tubro' at all.
Even though i mustve read the whole listing about three times.

x3

I.O.FJ - ten squid.

Post by **skipp123** » 12 Dec 2008 05:35 pm

i just read that whole thread took me a day lol, just wasnt sure if it was the orig 360 2.0 engine or not, pretty interested in that exact car hence doing research on the lumps and tuning potential ect

so it works then without too much trouble.

can someone point me in the direction of a conversion list ie parts needed from the donar 940t pls

iv tried the search but not alot came up, feel free to post links and il read away

what power do the std internals hold on the 360's?
std gearbox/clutch?

Post by **filthyjohn** » 12 Dec 2008 05:48 pm

General consensus is that 200 is fine, probably 250. But it's more complicated than that. Lots of low down torque will break your gearbox, and lots of high revs will break your conrods. If you just do what Ali did you should be fine.
IIRC, it was the stock 360 engine, a B200E, with 940 turbo manifold (740 manifold is too big) and tiny turbocharger. Management was megasquirt (which seems complicated but I'd rather build an ecu than try to seperate the loom from a 940). Alternatively you could pull a whole 940T engine from a scrappy and fit that without too much bother (need 360 sump, oil pump, water pump).
Stock clutch will be a bit weak, and the propshaft 'link piece' may break, like this:
http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... php?t=7159

Hope this helps.

volvosneverdie wrote:I.O.FJ - ten squid.

Cheque, postal order or cash is fine. In fairness, I was a member when Ali was building it so I followed it with interest.

Post by **Chris_C** » 12 Dec 2008 05:56 pm

skipp123 wrote:so it works then without too much trouble.

That depends on your definition of trouble. Yup, it works. No, it won't happen in a weekend. Ali put a lot of time and a fair bit of custom fabrication in, stock B200 won't run silly boost but Ali saw 170/180 from it. If you are keen, be prepared to have to do a fair amount of learning if you've never done tuning before, even at the point that car is you can blow things up if you don't have a clue. Having said that, most people want to learn, and the knowledge is here...

Post by **filthyjohn** » 12 Dec 2008 06:27 pm

Yep, plenty of support available on this lovely friendly forum, so rushing in blind isn't the end of the world. (apologies if you are actually Chip Foose and have no need for the ramblings of some volvo fr34kz).

Post by **skipp123** » 12 Dec 2008 06:45 pm

filthyjon cheers for the warm welcome. i have a fair idea of tuning, toys a mr2 tubby with lets say a few added bits

Post by **xtrmjks** » 12 Dec 2008 07:12 pm

Std 2.0 engine is too high compression for any "real" power..
it would work with MS..but is it worth it??

Post by **foggyjames** » 16 Dec 2008 02:29 am

A late B200E has lower compression than a B230ET

We toasted a B230, and we pretty much know what we're doing...we just didn't pay enough attention, and underestimated how easily it could happen at nearly 2 Bar of boost.

Ali's thread is a pretty good guide. Personally, I'd install a complete B200FT or B230FT from a 940 (with 360-isation.....oil pump, water pump, sump, etc). You may also like to convert it to a block-mount dizzy, rather than a head-mount....up to you.

Regarding management....For a low-power application (up to say 225bhp...fairly tame hardware upgrades), I'd run it on LH2.4 with a loom from a 240 (fairly separate to the rest of the car) with 940 turbo ECUs. If you have a look on Turbobricks, a guy who goes by the name of Suterman has just done this. Beyond this, I'd go programmable...and Megasquirt is well proven on these engines. That's what we use on my housemate's 740 which makes pleeenty of power for a near-stock 8v.

cheers

James