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New Speakers / ICE progress

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I've been teasing a few of you about my second new toy for the car (after the cash register)...well....time for the big reveal!

<Pre-update waffle!>

Just a quick re-cap...after a few years running with the stock 4" dualcones with Sony tweeters (a setup which worked very well indeed for what it was!), I decided to upgrade. I obtained a pair of Rockford Fosgate mid drivers (more on them later), and fitted them in place of the 4" dualcones. A huge improvement, mainly comprising of significantly more bass. At this point I ditched my 2x 10" subs from the boot!

However, I'm a bit of an audiohpile, and the vocal range was being spoiled by overlap between the drivers (no high-frequency filtering of the 4" drivers), so I bought a pair of JBL GTO-505ce components from everyone's favourite auction site. This is the setup I was running for the Gaydon meet. With a list price of £100, they were pretty disappointing - mainly because of pretty 'brutal' top end, but for the money I paid for them, I couldn't complain.

I sold the JBLs for what I paid for them, and they're now happily installed in a 2CV, where the angle at which the tweeters are installed counteracts their natural harshness. I then went in search of their replacements, and decided to go for the models my housemate has installed in his Rover 100 - props to the Chad for demo-ing (and letting my fiddle with) his speakers!

</Pre-update waffle!>

I bought myself a set of Alpine SPR-136As - 13cm / 5 1/4" 2-way components. They are generally considered to be one of the only products to look at unless you're spending silly money. They have a list price of £150, but I managed to get a much better deal than that! The main improvements over the JBLs are much chunkier drivers (the motor structure is flipping huge!), adjustable tweeter level (essential to allow a range of tweeter mounting locations), and soft-dome tweeters (generally smoother sounding than metallic-dome ones). Here is a piccy...

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(It shouldn't take a genius to work out where I bought them from now that I've posted that, so I'll offset the irritation of using their image against giving them a free advert!)

The first step was to chop a larger hole in the door card to accomodate those huge magnets (purists may find this image distressing...)
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The second step was to make the mounting pods. I decided to both follow the profile of the door card, and to bring the 'excess' out to be semi-flush with the grille. Piccy...
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With the mid driver fitted...
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And finally painted, and in the door...
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They'll be carpetted eventually, and pending me obtaining another spare door card, there's just the one side in for now....but you get the idea :)

This obviously frees up my spare 5" speaker mountings, and the Rockford Fosgate drivers. I'm not sure if I will keep the RFs or not (they're nice drivers, especially given their lack of bulk!), but the mounting rings might as well go to a good home. They're a trick piece of kit because you can use them to fit 5" speakers (with small-ish motor structures) to the standard speaker location - they even use the standard screw holes!

Look out for a post in 'Offer' on those! Anyhow, they've taken me a lot of time, and after a little EQ, I'm proud of the results. Demos will be given at the next meet for anyone who is interested!

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Post by 5lab »

or you could just drop 4" drivers straight into the volvo pods ;)
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Post by foggyjames »

Could do, but there's a trade-off in terms of performance.

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Post by special »

ohh that reminds me if anyone is interested in vinyl cloth (no im not into vinyl in a kinky way) i can get almost any colour you desire
handy for i.c.e installations or other uses in the car let me know

by the way james thats lookin sweet!!
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Post by foggyjames »

I take it this is through work? Presumably you can't get speaker carpet? As some point I can see myself re-vinyling the door cards, as they peel like crazy! Should be of interest to someone though.

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Post by Azurael »

I don't even have speakers in the door, or the 'bulge' in the door that the newer 300s have that at least make the door deep enough for decent speakers.. I have no idea where I'll mount mine.
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Post by 5lab »

see if you can fit them in the footwell just in front of the doors.
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Post by foggyjames »

Yes indeed - there should be a 4x6" mounting location in the front footwell. Your side trim panels may not have the cutout marked out, but the hole should be there in the sheet metal behind it.

You can see how much I've had to space the SPRs out by - anything of any real size has to come out by about 36mm.

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Post by 5lab »

in all fairness, it might not be the case with an early 300, they had shorter bonnets n stuff so may not have the room :P
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Post by Azurael »

I do have the mounting holes in the front footwell, bt I really wanted to put my midrange speakers in them (which could well end up being 4" if the design of my home speakers is anything to go by) but I'd also like to be able to hear them. Ah well, guess there's no other chooice without ripping the interior to pieces.
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Post by foggyjames »

I would at least give them a try down there...you'd be surprised what you can get away with!

The other thing worth trying it fitting a set of late door cards to the early doors.

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Post by Azurael »

Are the dimensions of the doors the same? If so, I'll just rip the door cards out of the Mk.2 340 5 door I'm working on down the scrappie. The interior is roughly the same colour...
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Post by foggyjames »

Yes they are....but I don't know if the moutings on the door are the same. Only one way to find out though!

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Post by arnagath »

I have SPL Pros 6x9" speakers in back of my car http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/ ... uhylly.jpg

And Panasonics 5.5"-6" speakers in front doors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/ ... kajari.jpg

Subwoofer is coming..I dont know when :roll:
Maybe 10" coming and (of course) also power amplifier
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Post by foggyjames »

Your front-door install is spookily similar to my old setup!
Edit: Nice work BTW...very clean.

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James
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