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Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:04 pm
by Attack2001
MCHUDD wrote:Hi Thomas.
Its the gauge clock that i have.
Cheers Mark.

ohhhhhhhhhhh i see what you mean
At the moment im thinking it might be better/cheaper if i just buy a mk3 tank and put it in with the mk3 sender
Thomas...............
P.S Mac, i cant use a VDO sender as it doesnt fit into my fuel tank
This mk1 tank sender with the three terminals is brand new, i only plugged it into the wires and didnt put it in the tank, so its £30 posted if you want it

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:15 pm
by macplaxton
Pah, it's not brand new anymore!

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:18 pm
by Attack2001
macplaxton wrote:Pah, it's not brand new anymore!

Shhhh its still in its wrapper

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:22 pm
by macplaxton
Attack2001 wrote:At the moment im thinking it might be better/cheaper if i just buy a mk3 tank and put it in with the mk3 sender

It might be cheaper to go back to Smiths clocks...
Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:29 pm
by Attack2001
macplaxton wrote:Attack2001 wrote:At the moment im thinking it might be better/cheaper if i just buy a mk3 tank and put it in with the mk3 sender

It might be cheaper to go back to Smiths clocks...
If i go back to smiths clocks the sender still wont work though, my senders broken, i need to replace it, its not a problem with the gauges
Thomas....................
Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:42 pm
by macplaxton
Yes, but don't you have a three terminal Smiths sender to use with a set of Smiths clocks?

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 09:51 pm
by Attack2001
macplaxton wrote:Yes, but don't you have a three terminal Smiths sender to use with a set of Smiths clocks?

At the moment i've got a VDO cluster in the car, with a mk2 smiths sender thats broken, the new one i've got is the 3 terminal one that i hoped would work, but it doesnt look like it does to me. Im not changing the cluster as i rather like my rev counter

Unless someones got a smiths cluster with the rev counter? there just uber cool
Thomas...............
Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 10:02 pm
by macplaxton
I'm fairly certain that Smiths gauges, regardless of MY, require the same resistance across the range.
The only difference between the senders on MY79-82 and MY83-85 is whether or not they have an additional terminal for the low fuel/temp warning lights.
So with a MY83-85 clockset, you could use the older fuel tank / temp senders and omit using the spare terminal (Obviously it wouldn't work the other way round - early Smiths clocks/later Smiths senders)
Attack2001 wrote:Unless someones got a smiths cluster with the rev counter?
As it happens...yes...as per picture, but I need to think where it's located.

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 10:21 pm
by Attack2001
macplaxton wrote:I'm fairly certain that Smiths gauges, regardless of MY, require the same resistance across the range.
The only difference between the senders on MY79-82 and MY83-85 is whether or not they have an additional terminal for the low fuel/temp warning lights.
So with a MY83-85 clockset, you could use the older fuel tank / temp senders and omit using the spare terminal (Obviously it wouldn't work the other way round - early Smiths clocks/later Smiths senders)
Attack2001 wrote:Unless someones got a smiths cluster with the rev counter?
As it happens...yes...as per picture, but I need to think where it's located.

Aha, now this sounds like a plan

Early mk1 sender (i write mk1 and mk2 as i dont know the crossover years etc etc) with a set of rev counter mk2 gauges, and in theory, the early fuel sender will work with the mk2 gauges?
If one of the terminals on the mk1 sender is to turn the low fuel level light on, is there no way this can be bridged to another one of the connectors so it still works? or am i talking more rubbish

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 10:30 pm
by macplaxton
Ok, it's sinking in!
Attack2001 wrote: or am i talking more rubbish

Yep you're talking balls. No connection required to the sender switch as if you
look at P62 on that PDF mentioned above, the warning light business is dealt with by the MFU.

Re: Fuel gauge sender - Early B14
Posted: 22 Apr 2012 10:45 pm
by Attack2001
macplaxton wrote:Ok, it's sinking in!
Attack2001 wrote: or am i talking more rubbish

Yep you're talking balls.
Aha, thats what i thought
Ahh i didnt see the pictures and extra text to start with. Well, thanks for clearing that up. Im now (sort of) on the hunt for the early rev counter cluster when i can afford them, that should get it all working

Thanks for the help, and patience
Thomas...............