1.7 3-door 340 wanted! cash waiting!

Post by **SteveP** » 28 Jul 2006 07:21 pm

5lab wrote:i spun nessy about 6 times

We can tell.... Anyway, on your 20 quid a corner tyres, any 300 in your hands will be drift tastic!

Post by **5lab** » 29 Jul 2006 10:54 am

how can ya tell? didnt ding it any of those times

Post by **d3k4y0** » 29 Jul 2006 11:58 am

The 340 is far easier to handle sideways due to the fairly even torque delivery, Ray was fine because you could catch any overexuberance with a good dollop of opposite lock and a few more revs.
The 360 (gle) is too peaky to be anything but scary in the wet, as you just get a huge lump of torque at 3k and then nothing above it to hold it. Tthe result is that the 360 just lurches and with corrective steering you will just end up backwards with a flat tyre...... apparently

Post by **SteveP** » 29 Jul 2006 12:20 pm

As far as I've heard you have to be going a fair bit faster in a 360 for any kind of sidewaysness... I find mine remarkably well balanced really.

Post by **Ali** » 29 Jul 2006 12:59 pm

We've got a bit more up the top end in the glt's though

Post by **foggyjames** » 30 Jul 2006 01:41 am

d3k4y0 wrote:My car is broken, help

Say what now?

I think the 360 is more controllable when sideways, but if helps to have a bit of extra power to get it going, right chaps?

I just hold mine in the powerband and it's all good as long as it's wet. Since it's my daily driven car, I've fitted tyres which will keep it planted in the dry - I'd rather not be sideways on my way to work, etc.

If I wanted to build an uber-ghetto drift 300, I'd most likely take a 360 GLT, weld the diff up, and put crappy tyres on the back. If I wanted to make it a bit more of an all-rounder, I'd give it turbo power (drift on demand), wider tyres and an LSD. I think it has a lot more to do with tyre choice than weight distribution - my 360 was just scary with kick-ass Continentals on the front and Michelin Energys on the back.

cheers

James

Post by **d3k4y0** » 30 Jul 2006 10:14 am

My car is NOT broken

Post by **Carl** » 30 Jul 2006 10:54 am

I with Foggy on this one. Cant see the point of using a 1.4/1.7/1.7T engine when you've got the option of a stronger 2.3T engine with a stronger drivetrain (no offence to anyone there, that is just my opinion).

Having been out in my mates newly aqcuired 200SX with LSD - drift really is on demand, would be great to make something similar out of a 360 - I'd be smiling every time I drove it. Although I'm getting the hang of hanging the BX's tail out on roundabouts now, which has got me some pretty funny looks

Post by **SteveP** » 30 Jul 2006 11:08 am

d3k4y0 wrote:My car is NOT broken

35 Miles to a tenner?

Post by **V6 Man** » 30 Jul 2006 11:25 am

I'll go against the trend and say that the 360 is not the best car for drifting. That big engine is probably the most useful for using power to get the back end out, but it is heavy when compared to the alloy Renault engines which results in a forward bias with regard to the cars weight. As remarked above the 360's do tend to understeer more than the 340's.

For drifting I'd say the 340 1.7 is the best choice, if more power is wanted there's always the 1.7 turbo swap from a 400 to consider.

Post by **SteveP** » 30 Jul 2006 11:47 am

Out balance the weight issue by putting crap tyres on the back.... the 360 has a stronger drivetrain for a start. However, I've not actually heard of anyone who drifts the 1.7 breaking anything!? Given their reputation for being 'weak' Id've expected propshaft splines to be rounded all the time...

Post by **foggyjames** » 30 Jul 2006 12:38 pm

V6 Man wrote:it is heavy when compared to the alloy Renault engines

Alloy? Where's that O RLY owl when you need him...

Sure, getting a 360 sideways is harder, but I think it's easier to control when it's out there, and I'd rather throw extra power at the 'initiation' problem, rather than throwing brown stuff at my pants - Nessy can be pretty 'skatey' once sideways compared to the 360.

Pedantry aside, they are both nice handling cars once sideways - getting them sideways is the problem!

cheers

James

Post by MJ » 30 Jul 2006 01:25 pm

Post by **foggyjames** » 30 Jul 2006 02:21 pm

Owned...

cheers

James

Post by **Ali** » 30 Jul 2006 03:30 pm

Yeah i'd definately agree with the "skatey" comment. 340's in the wet feel more of a "when" they'll slide rather than "if" lol, i've not had either sideways for long enough (gay open diff) to really tell much more difference than the break away point. It did however look like the 360glt in the some of the pics in fastcar (the red one) was doing fine with just a welded diff and what looked like stock suspension. Hopefully in the next two weeks mine will get stripped and diff welded if I can find someone to do it so i'll report back if it does happen