360 GLE Carb

Post by **Chris_C** » 24 Jun 2007 10:53 pm

Yup, definately an A, it was an injection head. Thats stock in GLT's, so a renix from one should sort all the ignition issues, then its just fueling!

Post by **Carl** » 25 Jun 2007 12:05 am

For road rallies get yourself a decent nav first, thats the most important bit of kit you'll ever need!

In terms of the car, get the handling and brakes sorted first. IME this should involve a brake check/overhaul (ideally with uprated pads and dot 5.1 fluid), a suspension check/overhaul (new dampers are a good start if the current ones are getting on a bit) and a decent set of tyres (v v important). Once all that is done then you can start on the engine, but TBH without spending big bucks you're always gonna lag behind the other hot hatches.

I've rallied quite a few different cars (club level and Nat B) and the 360 was one of the most fun, which in my book was the main reason for doing it. My GLT couldn't quite keep up with the GTi boys on the tarmac, but unsurfaced roads is where the car really comes into it's own. It's perfectly balanced and surprised quite a few people (and scared a few photographers!!).

Post by **volvorsport** » 25 Jun 2007 12:39 am

yes , back in the late 90s , when in deepest darkest wales , top guys were running and still running 205 gti , with longman engines on remapped motronic ( IIRC), reputedly around 190hp .

its a bit of a daft rule , keeping the std ecu

rules changed again last year , banning 4wd and turbos didnt they ?

it never stopped me enjoying spectating at one particular junction , with a young lass lost in a vw polo and a line of welshman telling her politely to get off the road(public , not closed) theres some rally cars coming the other way .

Also the sight of john dalton coming through said junction backwards in a talbot sunbeam , wheels going forwards .

about 5 mins later , reappearing with a knocking engine , lol .

Post by **Jason B** » 25 Jun 2007 11:48 am

don't worry I'm not intending on being massively competitive, just want to have some fun with it and tbh 205 gtis etc are out of my price league really (plus everyone runs peugeots and golfs)

Post by **Carl** » 25 Jun 2007 05:41 pm

You'll have fun with the 360 in standard tune! I did PC7 in my old 340DL a few years ago and it was a great laugh! I never liked running the same cars as everyone else, which is partly how I ended up with the said 340

Post by **Jason B** » 25 Jun 2007 08:12 pm

I know it'll be fun

just need to sort out whether my nav intends on doing the whole of next season.

I'm basically sorting the handling out first (reminds me, carl i'm in soton on sunday and possibly longer could arrange to buy those springs and bushes off of u then? if not would chris make a good go between, seems as tho thats his job for u guys lol)

really i'm just trying to get a good idea of total parts and a vague budget seeing as the car seems structurally sound I dont see why it wouldnt make a great tuning project at the same time

Post by **Carl** » 25 Jun 2007 08:43 pm

Budget is a difficult one as, with old cars especially, there's always things you dont think of that you'll end up needing. A few hundred should see a decent handling car - perhaps not has competetant as it could be but definately better than standard!

I should be about on Sunday, so no worries if you wanna pop round. Just drop me a PM on here and we can sort something out.

Post by **Jason B** » 25 Jun 2007 09:13 pm

ok cool will do,

supposing no massive problems spring up I'm counting on this being a long term project anyway, so I dont really want to do lots of quick fixes. I'm hoping to plan it a bit to avoid buying something now that i soon realise wont grow with the project. First job really is to sort ignition and fueling and get the car into decent standard tune then fit the springs and sort brake hoses etc.

The car is on the road until the 18th of july and then she will be taken off the road to be worked on over the summer in a large garage on my grandads farm, thankfully I have access to all of my dad and grandads tools (i.e. pretty much every tool for every occasion

) so despite being a relative novice I have time and space to sort it all out ready for october

Post by **Carl** » 25 Jun 2007 09:16 pm

Sounds like a good plan to me! Nothing is that complicated on these cars, so arm yourself with a Haynes and get busy

Post by **classicswede** » 26 Jun 2007 11:09 pm

Carls springs will be ideal for what you want as that is the use he ordered them for.

Post by **ajdubas** » 27 Jun 2007 01:59 am

Jason B wrote:I have time and space to sort it all out ready for october

*cough* september *cough*
wouldn't want to miss the funky elephant now, would you?

bigger carb is most certainly what you want for more power, considering your current carb is about the same size as the 1.4 205 XS. Look for something around 38-40 size should give you a decent enough flow without making it impossible to idle. For rallying though, I'd definitely tune for better low end torque as opposed to high end power unless you plan on fitting a different gearbox. Otherwise you'll hit 45ish, change to 3rd and be at a complete loss for acceleration.

Where is your farm garage? I'm around if you need a hand with anything, can also nav you round some interesting lanes if you need to do a road test

Post by **Jason B** » 27 Jun 2007 11:18 am

don't worry, I'm aiming for sept

drove the car back yesterday, great when cruising but doesnt like driving at slower revs (bit of kangarooing) you can feel the torque low down but then theres no real oomph until 3500/4000 revs but it does seem to trot on pretty well when its in the mood lol

still, much of that is of no consequence as I am changing the ignition and carb soon and am not worrying about tuning until then

Post by **ajdubas** » 27 Jun 2007 11:37 am

fancy going for a random drive tonight?

I don't finish work 'til 9pm, but it wont even be dark then so all is good.

Post by **Chris_C** » 27 Jun 2007 11:50 am

Jason, remebering what it was like before when I went out with Nick in it, you really sure the power doesn't come in till that late? Make sure that the carb hasn't got dirty whilst being sat, and that you have smooth feed of power for all positions of the throttle, i.e. the lack of power is really rev dependant, not throttle dependant.

That car has done about 500miles in the last.... 12months?!? at a guess, so the carb could have some oxidisation build up in it, and or bits of perished seals/gaskets/whatever, I don't think Nick ever stripped it, not sure what Mick did.

You in Soton or gone home at the mo? I don't mind taking a look one evening if you are around, tell you if it's got worse.

Post by **Chris_C** » 27 Jun 2007 11:51 am

Added to that... the sticky of Renix no's

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... php?t=3506

So yup, you need a 411