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quick steering would help, though for cornering it is not exactly negative camber that is needed. Positive castor is the aim, as this increases the tyre contact area under cornering though obviously this is linked to a more negative camber setting.
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I guess it depends from corners too, such tight corners like in autocross are of course bit different what I'm used to, but idea of negative camber is to keep tires from bending under rim and to keep forces evenly distributed over tire surface under cornering, but that is mostly in high speed cornering.
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jtbo wrote: idea of negative camber is to keep tires from bending under rim and to keep forces evenly distributed over tire surface under cornering, but that is mostly in high speed cornering.
Hmmmmmmmmm........that'll be why J is pondering pos camber.Word is he prefers low speed cornering :wink:

He'll never live with Chris' pace :lol:
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sven360 wrote:
jtbo wrote: idea of negative camber is to keep tires from bending under rim and to keep forces evenly distributed over tire surface under cornering, but that is mostly in high speed cornering.
Hmmmmmmmmm........that'll be why J is pondering pos camber.Word is he prefers low speed cornering :wink:

He'll never live with Chris' pace :lol:
ROFL, you said that, I never intended it that way :lol:
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hehe, sven you can keep your permanent negative camber and when you hit some slippy stuff on a corner and the thought crosses your mind that you wished a little more tyre was in contact with the road then you can warm me up a shandy and I'll promise to not say I told you so :P lol

On another note, most of this is of little consequence as if you're going the correct speed one wheel should always be lifting off the ground! 8)
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"Pass the net our lad,I think I'm reeling in a big un".

As for liftin' a wheel speak to FJ-levitation is a widely underrated skill.
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Congrats Chris!

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Awesome vid man
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Nice drive, Chris - you're showing some skills there
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Right, got some extracts from the route book, they are quite big I'm afraid, but should mean people can follow them if they want to.

The test in the vid is test 4, so you can see what it looks like on paper. Luckily they ditched test 19 :o

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jtbo wrote:
sven360 wrote:
jtbo wrote: idea of negative camber is to keep tires from bending under rim and to keep forces evenly distributed over tire surface under cornering, but that is mostly in high speed cornering.
Hmmmmmmmmm........that'll be why J is pondering pos camber.Word is he prefers low speed cornering :wink:

He'll never live with Chris' pace :lol:
ROFL, you said that, I never intended it that way :lol:
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classicswede wrote: Only a touch of negative is wanted
Around -3 degrees on track.
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Well... there was another slalom this weekend, and Foggy was superbly awesome in delivering me 2 wheels I'd left up there so I didn't have to kill my road tyres.

But... come Sunday morning, I bailed. It had been raining the previous 3 days, and I know I'm not good at slowing when I'm on any kind of track. As Fake's still my daily, I can't afford to stuff it too hard.

I just spoke to one of the guys who went, he wrote off his mates 205. Out of 15 entries, 5 write offs, the banger track had oil on it, and with the water from the previous few days still flooding bits. Ouch all round!

I was really annoyed at the time, Sunday was bright sun here, so I took the car out for a mini photo shoot, I'll post a piccy up later!
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Sounds like you made perfectly right decision, oil + water makes track incredible slippery, have spunned once because of it.

Shame that so many guys did lost their vehicle, surely track manager should have set up cautions or clean track before event.

Hopefully future events will be better :)
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Piccy:

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