Scary Movie

[germ]

i only like simulation driving games i play forza alot or i did but its just not good enough i think its too easy there was one game i played where it was very much like driving cornering and such it was dificult not just turn wheel and go sort of thing you had to think ahead and stuff.

forza is more realistic if you turn off all aids: abs spin control make it manual etc

i played it one time and the server had made it so there were no aids and every one came un stuck but as i never use them i wasnt botherd , i dont set fastest times and stuff but its more fun and i can stil keep up with the leaders and most of the time win. but if you move the stearing quick or loose consentration you go of the track in a slit second of not thinking.

very much in real life , try jaming your brakes on and they have almost no effect.(with out abs) you have to be progressive.

another thing is gokarting Who has ever done it then tryed to drive a car?? its dangerous and misleading. although very fun

[MJ]

I fully agree that it's not the same, and it's really just a fun activity.

However, I think that the opposite lock instinct could help in a real life situation (from sims as jani mentions, not the rubbish need for speed) as opposed to a person who'd never had overstear in real life or virtual.

[germ]

forza is a simulation game? isnt it?

[IvanS.]

I did try some simulations ( oh well flight simulations..i always wanted to be the pilot...i know what you think...it's dam hard without ads ) and some car testing simulations...but never took them for real. It helped me in some cases ( drive backward, cornering with slides... ).

To be honest i didn't take any new simulations. Maybe it's a miss .
I do not believe that simulations can be as realistic as real life. Just give you a taste how fear can really be, what you can finish like, prepare you for the real and the worst.
But no one knows how will you react when time comes...it's obvious with less fear and more prepared than without those simulations.

It's true that it will increase reflexes and logical thinking and prepare you for some critical situations. I know that well.

I used to play games, but now i see it's an waste of time.

jtbo said :

But I think that normal human being don't let games affect to their real life decisions (school shooters for example) or if that is so, then that person should be put to mental hospital or something and it should be examined what parents have done to get kid raised so twisted and if there is other kids they should be saved from those incapable parents.

UTTER Respect

Also said :

There should not be any driver on road that makes bad decisions based to feeling or gets angry on traffic, no any driver that has no skill or ability to control car and no any driver that plays on public roads.

Wish it is like that. As for grand(s), it's obvious. But no thing we can do

I agree with You, it will help, but it's not the solution. Just preparation.

[jtbo]

forza is a simulation game? isnt it?

Arcade rubbish compared to proper simulations, but Forza is best there is for gaming consoles.

Ivan, if you still got wheel try this one demo is free and lot of fun:
http://www.liveforspeed.net/

If your wheel turns only 270 degrees, then set steering lock of cars to 9 degrees to get tires turn as much as they should really turn with such steering input, affects a lot to realism factor.

Sure that is fun without wheel too, but not very real feeling.

Btw, almost only game that does proper turbo modelling and where tires actually bends at corners, everything is calculated as real as possible. Still that is not ready, they are going to make it more real.

Oh yes, as some of you may know, I do drive occasionally on track IRL and in games, how could I create physics of 360 if I would not take it to limit and beyond at times
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jtbo

[SteveP]

I bought live for speed a couple of weeks ago, and have been addicted since... it's a VERY clever game and very accurate feeling to it

[germ]

"There should not be any driver on road that makes bad decisions based to feeling or gets angry on traffic, no any driver that has no skill or ability to control car and no any driver that plays on public roads. "



I am affaid there is not much we can do about that we are humain and we are not perfect. if every thing was perfect humains would get bored,
perfect car for example doesent need repaires=man bored
and there are millions of things that if they where perfect the world would become boring man likes to tinker.

Think about it.
or maybe not you might get a headacke

Cheers

[IvanS.]

no my parents sold it as well as my camping equipment two-three years ago they did it when i wasn't at home, beacuse they needed money....i still can't get over that ( especially camping equipment.

No more games for me, for a whle....

[germ]

whick live for speed?
1 or 2

[jtbo]

I bought live for speed a couple of weeks ago, and have been addicted since... it's a VERY clever game and very accurate feeling to it

Nice, I'm running league for Finnish Volvo board, Volvolandia is my rented server and we have now 3 league races in a week, over 30 registered racers

Bad thing in that is that your free time will be disappearing

[jtbo]

whick live for speed?
1 or 2

Live for speed is only one game, there is different stages of license however, only difference is in content. S1 is £12 and S2 is another £12 so £24 total.

Even if you get S1 you will get future updates to physics, so that is something you don't get with normal games

Oh yes sure we are not perfect, but we can learn, it is part of bigger concept that should be started to teach everyone from very young, called self control or something
There was time when this was valued more, today not much of anyone values this

If I have learned from 'exploding nut case' to 'how he can be so calm', I'm sure everyone can

[jtbo]

Why buy ?

Why buy?
To support developers and give money to them so they can continue to make outstanding products and give something to you, entertainment.

Did you know that LFS is developed by 3 people, they sell it directly and price is very cheap, also you can contact them personally and get very good support.

From 2002 I have enjoyed from LFS, I did pay £36 to them even it was not sure that there would be S2, because already I had so much value from product and now 5 years later I can see 5 more years of value from it, calculate cost per year, not much.

Piracy is crime and very wrong thing to do, even more so with these real software products that will out stand any product made by big company in features and quality.

They really have earned that money.

But really you should not steal from big corporations either, that is so lame and selfish, very very wrong and bad thing to do.

I'm really not rich, I have had no money to fuel for long time, but still I have bought my licenses, 3ds max being ultimately expensive one even I got it with great discount, but it was still four number figure.

Don't you ever do such things like stealing

Edit: Edited quote as saw mods on duty

[IvanS.]

yeah i know ....imagine you buy everything

I do support developers, as paying for many licenced stuff i have, updates and upgrades. Since my sister works with video streaming and video editing, she needed some program and books, but when i saw the price it was too high for the money i kept . I'm shame on myself even now when i think of that.
The only program i cheated was that and..oh well windows itself, but that wasn't me. Here is no licenced windows, so when i asked put windows i expected licenced, but when i try to update my (some sort of code isn't right and no major updates . )

[IvanS.]

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/ ... nd_wee.flv

Person is riding on Suzuki hayabusa 1300cc....probably with turbine modification.

scary

[Chris_C]

Ivan's right, no racing simulation matches real life. They get close though, me and Nick along with a few others paid this place a visit a few weeks ago

http://www.driverschallenge.co.uk/

It's based on GPL, which I hadn't played, but 2 guys had, and they also have all the good sim kit. Results from the day, 1st place to a vaguely useful karter who had never played the game before, then the 2 that had previous experience (then me, not that add's anything to the story, but I was chuffed!!)

Goes to show something that a guy with karting experience managed to beat the 2 who know the game VERY well. Thing is, they still can't model G-Force, which is what most of us use to know when we are on the limits of grip and a few other things.

As to driving after karting, I've never had a problem, same after I got to take a ferrari round Thruxton, the only time I have had a problem is after a rally, twice my concentration has been so low after the mental drain, I've made mistakes. One I was bloody lucky with, and ever since I force myself to concentrate and double check EVERY manuover I make from the finish to a place of rest, be it the pub or home.

Driving on any kind of track is very different to road, where as the rallies are on lanes anyway