mat_91 wrote:im not getting in a big row about this as all that weight will slow you down when i stripped my interior out the car went faster simple
my friend is in to all them big subs lark when he stripped it all out to redo his system the car flew past me when before i beat him constantly
have you took your interior out and all that sound deading sheet stuff as it dont half weight some
and i would love to take my dash out as its piggin ugly but insurance say its a big no no as its part of your safety stuff so its staying for now

I do agree, weight does make a huge difference. I've taken to having a cr*p before going out for a drive as I like the comfort of my interior too much and I do too many miles to be without it

Oh and the rally series I compete in requires a full interior.

I just doubled my power instead

jtbo wrote:So it is impossible to claim that stripping interior would help, as it may do so in your application, but it might cause more of trouble than it is worth in some other application.

for that very same reason i think it is impossible to claim that stripping the interior wouldn't help

apart from all above items, imagine what 100kg weightloss does to the height of the car and by that aerodynamics; other height means other wheelstand. weight is a small and easy thing to mess around with but can have big consequenses for the driving and handling

volvodspec wrote: for that very same reason i think it is impossible to claim that stripping the interior wouldn't help

apart from all above items, imagine what 100kg weightloss does to the height of the car and by that aerodynamics; other height means other wheelstand. weight is a small and easy thing to mess around with but can have great consequenses for the driving and handling

I wouldn't mind to have bit more weight on rear wheels, adding power is easy, adding grip is difficult

i deffo agree to that, bit struggling with that too atm

Power is applied fine until I go to turn. I'm turning now, wheee *que 20 feet of tyre smoke from offside*

Speedy88 wrote:Power is applied fine until I go to turn. I'm turning now, wheee *que 20 feet of tyre smoke from offside*

I had that really bad when car had standard 360GL springs and shocks, I put GLT springs to front, GLT/GLE gas shocks to front and new GL oil shocks to rear, it got better, but still it would of needed some more weight to rear or preferably locker diff. There were especially two corners on track that I used, where problem was quite bad, I lost quite a bit of time in those as both were quite long corners in slow speed.

If I put pedal down right after apex only thing that did happened was that motor hit rpm limiter and pillow of blue smoke emerged from rear part of the car. So I had to wait 3 to 5 seconds depending from the turn before I could go to throttle. I did try to compensate that by making later tighter turn in, but -0.2 degrees of front camber was not going to co-operate with me there, front wheels did bend under the car, getting wear to sidewalls of tire (185/60/14 @ 3bar).

Front should be stiffer than rear, but then again that causes also more understeer at corner entry, but I think it could of been fixed with adding thin extra leaf to rear and of course adjusting daper rates both front and rear which would of required adjustable dampers to be bought, it would of been good route as I did hit bump stops few times in every lap. Putting ARB from Whiteline to front and adding some not too strong ARB to rear would been another way around this issue, but that would still left bottoming issues.

It is not a sports car, just good small family car, it needs some amount of work to be able to be a sports car, actually quite a lot of work as whole suspension needs to be fixed and even at stock GL diff is too tall, dropping out from powerband quite easily.

My french crap diesel has higher RPM at 80kph than my 360, that is tall diff ratio, imo

volvodspec wrote:

jtbo wrote:So it is impossible to claim that stripping interior would help, as it may do so in your application, but it might cause more of trouble than it is worth in some other application.

you have just agreed with my side of the argument the title of the tread (PROOF that stripping out your car makes it no faster)
but it does thats all i was trying to get across

My point of view is that it does help / it does not help, I can't say either really, only when knowing situation I can tell how it is in that situation, but for me it is impossible to say only one of those as I know somewhere it does help, somewhere it does not help, but when accompanied with some other changes it usually helps, simple?

If someone would ask me which one is better, station wagon or coupe, I would answer both, as it really is impossible for me to say which one is better, both are equally good for their purposes, so there can't be better between them.

Then people think that I'm arguing, when I'm simply badly articulating, when I same time agree and disagree

Oh right, so you just disagree with the title. I was actually going to put "stripping out your car makes it no faster unless you're going in a straight line but even then you gain tenths of a second" but it wouldn't fit

Speedy88 wrote:Oh right, so you just disagree with the title. I was actually going to put "stripping out your car makes it no faster unless you're going in a straight line but even then you gain tenths of a second" but it wouldn't fit

Do it like silly americans do, cut few letters here and there and think nobody would ever notice a anything

We really should have thread about silly americans, they do make it just too tempting to make fun of themselves

well it does make a difference then

mat_91 wrote:well it does make a difference then

Difference like changing weight balance, yes, difference like making car faster, yes and no, making faster on straight line acceleration, yes up to point, making faster around the track, not necessarily, can make slower because of messed up weight balance, depends also from car. There are also cases where difference is limited to acoustics.

You have to pick from some of those

psst... I hope you're not taking this discussion too seriously It makes a difference like wearing no clothes makes a difference. You'll run faster than the guy with clothes on but my god it's impractical.

Speedy88 wrote:psst... I hope you're not taking this discussion too seriously It makes a difference like wearing no clothes makes a difference. You'll run faster than the guy with clothes on but my god it's impractical.

i wont.
ive had a naked sprint off with two clothed policemen, they technically had 2x the clothes I did, and I still lost.

You never fail to surprise me VND