A year older than my car. I'm 19.

I am 19. My car was made in July 1988 so it's near enough 17 years old.

I'm 22, my 360 is 17 years old:)

Cornholio wrote:We were cutting our teeth on 6502 / Z80 / 68000 assembly language before you were so much as a twinkle in your father's / milkman's / Volvo dealer's eye.

So it's your fault I had to learn assembler on a 68k!!

I'm 21, and the car is 17.

cheers

James

foggyjames wrote: So it's your fault I had to learn assembler on a 68k!!

I'm 21, and the car is 17.

been there, done that! honestly, oldies today, thinking they're all that with their mops... don't know they're born!

x86 all the way baby!






God I hate geeks

chown -R us ./base

It does rather beg the question why anyone needs to program assembler for the x86 platform today though, no? We learned 68k (tenuous, I know, but they say they don't have enough money to upgrade to something present-day) and PIC because of their specialist applications, and the fair chance that you might program these in assembler - mainly for efficiency (crikey, you'd need to...). My understanding is that (generally) if you're using something as advanced/powerful as an x86, you won't be needing assembler - especially since there isn't too much need to write operatign systems any more - not that those are necessarily written in assembler! But then I'm not a computing student, so what do I know?

I have to take my hat off to the teenage game programmers who used to write straight into machine code because they couldn't afford assemblers. That's just crazy.

cheers

James

Nearly 23 here..

My Volvo is 17 years old, and so is my supra (exept for the engine purring under her hood .. it's a couple years younger..)

Yahoo ,I actually won something , even if it is the oldest fart on the forum award

no, true enough I don't need to be able to program in x86 assembler, nor can i think of any reason why anybody else would, short of doing something totally revoluionary. And even then, it makes more sense to do it on intel architecture than on motorola architecture, atleast in real terms.

however, the new Playstation and XBOX 360 are being based on PPC cores, the Xbox being a triple core PowerPC clocking somewhere over 3GHz. so maybe if people want to reverse engineer them in the same way theey did ith the Xbox, there's room to polish and update your 68k knowledge, the instruction sets aren't too dissimilar.

From my knowledge Dave (which is enough out of date on the PPC core) it is just the 68k set, with the equivilent of MMX bolted on. And no one needs to write assembler anymore. I do a lot of the specialist stuff Foggies on about, and I do that in C. A good C compiler for PIC is almost as good as me, and the only times I ever find it doesn't fit is when I've been a retard in my code.

If only the comp-sci's were forced to write code for small processors once in a while, we wouldn't have the really in-efficient software we do now (and before this goes too geeky, Windows is a better coded in a lot of parts compared to Linux)

And now ladies and gentleman, we prepare to return to the scheduled Volvo topics after that short interlude.

Can we talk about cars again?

Oh dear, I'm sorry to turn this into a geek-fest. Many apologies. My comment was only meant to be a light-hearted jape. To be honest, I can barely tell a mouse from a keyboard myself. Simply haven't got a clue. Oh yes, it's all beyond me. Must be dementia or something.

Now, where is my pipe and slippers? Mmm, comfy rocking chair. That's nice.

it must be owning a redline that makes us feel old , everything else just seems to slow down around us LOL

nahhh... I think only old people drive Redlines...